Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

JTS doing away with Level 3s and level 4s

Heard this from several sources. They're flattening out the totempole. Going to see lesser directors and avps going forward.

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Post ID: @OP+1rdphT4Y

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Over a several decade career, I cannot count how many times I have heard of and seen the flattening to end all flattenings. "No more than n levels b/w the lowliest and the CEO!"

They do it but it's like cancer, it all always grows back.

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Post ID: @1quk+1rdphT4Y

One look at the open reqs says everything.

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Post ID: @1ldf+1rdphT4Y

That should happen, as it’s long overdue. There’s no need for two levels of “VP’s”…much less four! They’d cut substantial costs by ridding 2+ levels of (grossly overpaid) stuffed suits!

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Post ID: @1hho+1rdphT4Y

You know who else loves to read pictures of squares and arrows? Toddlers. Att is ran by toddlers. Your paychecks are approved by toddlers. They certainly aren’t “coders”. All Legg knows how to do is curse mildly on town halls and insinuate that he has power. He certainly doesn’t know how to stop a dns outage costing the company reputation and shareholder value. He’s a toddler.

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Post ID: @wri+1rdphT4Y

OP here. Just take a look at webphone and look up the ratio of level 3s and 4s in Welday org. There's a ton of low hanging fruit to be cut when you've so many AVPs with less than 5 reports in an org.

This was also discussed in the board sessions.

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Post ID: @qml+1rdphT4Y

When I started here there were 6 people between me and the ceo. Now there are 7 and 4 are VPs. I do not understand how this can happened

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Post ID: @ujd+1rdphT4Y

I’d love to see some flattening. Like a street roller or piston driven compressor.

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Post ID: @uba+1rdphT4Y

I'd love to see some flattening, but this is hard to believe. This would result in level 5 VPs having hundreds of direct reports.

I deal with these VPs all the time, they can barely figure out how to hold a pen without assistance. All of their time would be consumed doing one on ones and performance assessments.

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Post ID: @bbr+1rdphT4Y

I'll believe it when i see it - we just had some guy in our org promoted to director (without reports) because he was thinking about leaving the company because of RTO. He was someone we def needed to keep, but if they did this for him, they're doing similar for others.

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Post ID: @fuh+1rdphT4Y

Evidence? I've heard this tune before.

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Post ID: @xvn+1rdphT4Y

With all of the job cuts span of control had to come into play.

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Post ID: @lem+1rdphT4Y

Usage of PowerPoint will drop significantly. Thank god!

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Post ID: @cyw+1rdphT4Y

JTS -> John T Stankey.

Enterprise is where they are beginning to put this in place.

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Post ID: @asz+1rdphT4Y

This should have happened decades ago.

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Post ID: @jyp+1rdphT4Y

But who would we supply PowerPoint slides for?

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Post ID: @ylm+1rdphT4Y

About time, no need or reason to have 4 lvls of VP’s.

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Post ID: @kmt+1rdphT4Y

Good.

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Post ID: @rwm+1rdphT4Y

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