Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

@1jxd

Obviously, OP's headline meant career AT WELLS FARGO. People like you are huge reason why we despise this place. smh

OP, you lost me at your headline.

Nobody can block your career but you. Decide what's most important to you and go for it. Don't like what one company says/does? Move on to another.

Stuff changes all the time. Not just at WF - everywhere.

Personally I think WF is getting rid of ALL remote positions eventually if you’re not in a hub be prepared to relocate or lose your job. Tons of layoffs still coming. Doesn't matter if you have an accommodation this is a business decision & a lawsuit will do nothing . He-l even employees in hubs have cr-p to worry about too because wait for it, we’ll be going back to office 4-5 days a week I believe why else would they be spending millions on making Charlotte hub buildings better. More than 1/2 my group has been voluntold moved to other teams whether we liked it or not and managers jumping ship asap into other groups We dnt know what we’ll be doing & waiting for layoffs and ARE in a hub!! No one is immune to this madness. Hubs are not safe either that is a joke people believe that lol WF only cares about it’s shareholders and stock and are not loyal to employees so make your own career yourself
I know people who worked remote for years & were told either relocate to Charlotte or take a package. They took the severance. Just cause you’re remote means nothing a business can change plans doesn’t matter what situation is or your health issue find someplace else to work that is fully remote good luck 🍀

OP, @fks here. That clears up a lot and sounds very wrong/underhanded. If the job is posted where you live the right thing for WF to do would be to allow you to seek a new medical accommodation. Especially since they've had remote people doing it before and the position hasn't changed.

I wonder how the people in HY sleep at night. It seems like their singular goal, in everything they do, is to break the spirit of the employees.

@fks
OP here. I'm within the approved locations for LOBs where the roles reside. Not in core location, but in 2nd group of specialty locations. My location was specifically listed on the job postings.

Prior employees in the roles were remote (further than 40 miles from hub), but they decided to find roles outside WF.

Roles can 100% be performed remotely by people unfortunate enough to have major medical limitation preventing them from being able to go to office.

OP, do you live within a core location or are you outside of a core location? Both are different situations. I'm going to make the assumption that the positions you've been applying for are within core locations since that seems to be the only place positions are posted.

If you are outside of the location/s were the position is posted, you'd need to move to wherever the position was. Everyone not in a core would be in the same situation - not eligible for the job. It's unfortunate that so many people (accommodations or not) are in this boat.

If you're in the core location where the position is posted or offered to move to the location where the position was posted, then I would suspect it's different. WF or the Manager could make a case for the position having to be in the office, but given that people have done it remotely in the past, it becomes harder for WF to defend the logic that it's necessary to be in the office.

@tcm

Sick twist.

@zvi+1rMHZfwL Nobody here, most especially the OP and all the idjits who jump straight to “git uh luhyur” want your clear, concise, factual information.

They want blind rage and commiseration.

OP, I’m glad you’re being hamstrung you victim playing gaslighter. I’m just biding my time letting folks like you get the sc--ws put to them to make my rise even easier than it has been.

Collect enough evidence to support your case. E-mails, conversations, IM's, chats, text messages. At the least take photos of it cause you won't be able to send e-mail to yourself or it may get caught in a filter. Don't do anything that breaks the rules - they may try and use those against you. Just comply, stay calm, follow direction and make sure you're tracking everything just as they are doing the same to you. Trust no one and lawyer up.

I wouldn't jump to calling it discrimination. You could consult with an Accommodations Consultant. There they will work very hard with you to get your accommodations approved. If it's not approved they will try for an alternative approved accommodation. At THAT point after speaking with your management, hr, and the Accommodation Consultant - and they still do nothing or are unresponsive then I would follow up with an Employment attorney and see what your rights are. At this point the company may try and retaliate against you but you have a clear enough paper trail to explain what happened in the event of a job loss. You seeked clarification on an accommodation process, tried to comply, ultimately ended up being retaliated against. Now you qualify for unemployment and you can follow up with the EEOC within the 180 day deadline. Take a sour situation, do your homework, demonstrate that, then protect yourself in the event of being retaliated against. At least now you tried to fully comply, you did your part, and you did your best. There's plenty of great remote roles out there. Keep networking and best of luck.

the law says that an accommodation is tied to the role, not the person. For each role, the manager determines whether an accommodation causes "undue hardship" which is the standard of the law. Any accommodation, or a specific accommodation (like remote work) is not a right under ADA.

The assessment of that hardship can change over time. If the prior incumbents were remote, business circumstances change and it may be determined now that remote is unacceptable/undue hardship.

You may disagree with that assessment, but it does have to pass a certain standard and internal review (i.e. it's not just the manager's whim).

while it s u x wf isnt doing anything wrong. When you received your medical accommodation it should have been indicated to you at the time that it is tied to the role. I had an employee on one and when HR called me to go through the motions I was told that it is tied to the role. guess I should complain
and sue about being in a specialty market with job postings only in core markets, so much for career growth.

The Firm could care less about your medical challenges. This is a harsh reality. Your colleagues, managers and numerous friends at work tend to care deeply about your well being.

Meanwhile, HY lickspittle sycophants laugh as you are shown the door.

@mlx+1rMHZfwL

It may look like it, but in Shart's WF managers have zero power, same with directors. Many many managers have been laid off already, and more will be this year. We're not exempt from anything and anyone that has thus far escaped the indignities heaped upon employees by the evil little men in HY soon will experience them. We'll be in the unemployment line right next to you.

Feel better?

Same situation here. Sadly, when pressed, they will say the “current” expectations and need for the role are to be in an office.

And…they will “adjust” their story and say it wasn’t an offer but rather your were selected for consideration of an offer. They are skating on the line that the true offer is not your discussion with the recruiter or hiring manager but the actual letter from WF.

Sorry, OP, I know it su-ks.

That's because you are not a manager. If you are a manager, you can do anything you want and get a way with it.

Evidences (example - screen prints of the role description, results of the evaluation, any recorded conversation with people who worked remotely earlier on the same role) can be helpful.

It’s called discrimination. Contact attorney and eeoc