Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

PIP document-dont agree with it.

There seems to be no substantiation to put me on PIP. Perhaps I could claim retaliation for age over 40 (Texas)? What happens if I don't sign it. Will I be terminated with no severance?

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Post ID: @OP+1qKcCg4x

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Best you can do is set reasonable goals that can be measured so the plan is closed. Then accept your severance. Miss any deliverable and you are gone with no severance.

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Post ID: @2lyk+1qKcCg4x

I tried that with a cop once over a speeding ticket, didn't help the situation at all. In the end, I was speeding.

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Post ID: @1eoz+1qKcCg4x

“If the company refuses to terminate you and provide you severance and unemployment benefits then you write an email to you boss and his/her boss and cc: the HR Business Partner for your team and accuse them of bias, discrimination, harassment, anti-semitism, racism, s-xism, ageism, colorism, lookism, disability, religion, and wrongful termination. And anything else including that you were a whistle blower for serious corporate misconduct.“

What an awful thing to suggest! There are LEGIT discrimination and retaliation scenarios that do actually happen and people like you (and those who do what you suggest) completely taint the valid claims out there and clog the process. You don’t even know if this OP deserves to be on a PIP or not!

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Post ID: @itz+1qKcCg4x

Never sign a PIP. It's not used to improve your performance if it has lies and exaggerations so you've been set up to fail. Nearly 100% of the time no one passes a PIP. You tell them to let you go with severance and so you can get unemployment benefits. There is nothing to lose because you've already been targeted to be fired. So fight for your life.

If the company refuses to terminate you and provide you severance and unemployment benefits then you write an email to you boss and his/her boss and cc: the HR Business Partner for your team and accuse them of bias, discrimination, harassment, anti-semitism, racism, s-xism, ageism, colorism, lookism, disability, religion, and wrongful termination. And anything else including that you were a whistle blower for serious corporate misconduct.

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Post ID: @pen+1qKcCg4x

Sign it. It's just an acknowledgement that you read it.

I was PIP'd a few yrs back. Mgr retribution for personality clash and my not letting her make me do risky things. I am a director now.

You can survive this. Work diligently and document how you are consistently adhering to PIP requirements.

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Post ID: @any+1qKcCg4x

Signing means you acknowledge it has been received, not that you agree with it.

Not signing it means nothing.

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Post ID: @ssh+1qKcCg4x

Sign it and start looking for a new job ASAP. Read the writing on the wall.

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Post ID: @snc+1qKcCg4x

If you are being PIP'ed then you may already be staged to be canned without severance...so released with cause. Personally I would quit even without a job.

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Post ID: @aeq+1qKcCg4x

RIP

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Post ID: @wfc+1qKcCg4x

You have the option to file a dispute on Teamworks.

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Post ID: @mcr+1qKcCg4x

A firm that has an asset cap, consent decrees, and union activity is not a serious business. I cannot support wells Fargo and my goal is for them to be dissolved. Further, anyone who is a financial advisor at Wells lacks a moral compass. The pip should be shredded. Then walk out because these folks aren't qualified to run a snowball stand.

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Post ID: @kjn+1qKcCg4x

Sign or don't sign, no significant impact there other than it will be documented that you refused to sign and it will demonstrate to your Supervision & HR that you aren't interested in following process. All that will do is increase scrutiny, the act its-self doesn't initiate anything.

You need to be more concerned with why you were PIP'd and resolving those issues if you want to stay. When someone is PIP'd in my group there is documented evidence of issue occurrences and administrative corrections afterwards. Your PIPing didn't come out of the blue.

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Post ID: @gsn+1qKcCg4x

Don’t sign it. You’ll show them…

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Post ID: @tee+1qKcCg4x

funny how low performers tend to not think of themselves as low performers.

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Post ID: @trp+1qKcCg4x

You have to actually prove illegal discrimination not just claim it.

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Post ID: @oee+1qKcCg4x

It doesn't matter whether you sign it or not, or give comments defending yourself. Once it's administered, it becomes the start of the termination process. I wish that wasn't true, but it is. Don't believe the people that say "don't sign it", it makes no difference.

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