Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Vote +1 if u see these scenarios, is it a common trait across the org?

# 5+ yrs as IC with consistent best perf rating & no promotion.
# Mgrs and upper levels getting promotion every other year.
# Mgrs treating ICs like trash, taking credits of their hard work.
# No reasonable raises, bonuses or stock options to IC.
# 90% of the recent layoffs only affected the ICs.
# Favoritism within the team.
# Hiring family/relatives over others.
# If u complain or report any of the above to HR, no actions and just to top it off, u will risk your position in the next layoff.

Odds are high for another round, Jan 11 nd 16, watch out

Avoid layoff by working the last week of year .

Who ever is not available during the time could be on the Jan 16th list.

“ Another round of layoffs on Jan 11? Fake news ? “

They lay off all the time. Odds are that it is true.

Layoffs are concentrated in US.

Same for my team. Only US staff impacted. They found cheap replacements if US workers.

Another round of layoffs on Jan 11? Fake news ?

Layoffs are concentrated in US. Our team has hardly anyone left in NA. IDC counterparts have sensed this and are slacking off as well. Strategy in action.

I spent 20 years at Oracle before being RIFd, and I should have left after 10 max. The longer you’re there, the more stale your skills become. Don’t be foolish into thinking you have a long term career at Oracle. Move on, there are far better companies to work at.

Some wisdom worth repeating

Hard Lessons-

Self serve first. Corporate companies are not your friend. They are there to make money even if US citizens suffer. Cheap outsourced labor will one day take your job anyway.
Keep your self relevant by learning market relevant technologies. In today's time, stick to open source technologies. Do not work on proprietary technologies. In case you are stuck, have an exit plan.
Do not be lured by false future promises. Stick to what can be compensated in present. No one knows future, not even your boss or his boss.
You will be taken advantage of if you allow that t happen. Fight for your rights diplomatically if personal situation allows else have an exit plan ready.
Do not stay for more than 2 years in a place unless you see string future growth
Maintain a work life balance. I regret this as time lost will never come back.
Try getting side income, you never know when your side hustle will turn out to be life saver.
Save as much as you can and invest wisely.

It legit seems to be the worst company run by the worst people.

lol. not even close. you haven't seen what are proper sweatshops. market is not just Google and MS, not even close.

It legit seems to be the worst company run by the worst people. I have never read as much terrilble stuff about a company this size. I recently left a well known company and their culture was terrible, but they haven't been around as long as Oracle. It seems like Oracle mgmt just let so many bad things happen over the years that people (the worker bees) accepted the bad behavior and traded it for a paycheck and bennies; I understand that....many have families and such. It's just terrible to see so many people who are hurting, have been hurt and will be hurt. My time at Oracle, like many, was the worst career decision I could've made. While it didn't ruin my life, it sure made me realize how many terrible people are lurking at these companies. Just so many bad actors. The sad part about it, what I felt, was that the bad actors, the sl--e, it was usually the people with the least talent, the least technical skills, the least ability. People who have good skills, who have been in the trenches, they just dont act as bad as these bad actors. It's just sad. I couldn't wake up every morning knowing I was a POS. There are just so many terrible people in mgmt there. It's sad. And the funny thing is they will totally scr-ew you, smile at you, and then say, "sorry, we just can't help you". Even HR. The worst. People with zero morals or empathy. Life is short folks.....you will eventually have to pay a price for what you did.

Exactly. I heard today that there are mid level VPs involved in Caribbean slot machines. How stupid can they be? Driven by greed, they’ve lost their minds. Feds will be watching their every move. It’s just a matter of time before they self destruct.
LE has waited too long to cleanup the mess. Corrupt behavior is out of control

In CX org anything is possible. For eg a M5 reports to M4. Maybe we will see soon a bunch of VPs reports to IC to keep the title.

AI is a fraud

Guys just move on to greener pastures. Right time to pivot to AI. No point staying with these VP id--ts who want org filled with bootlickers with zero coding or technical skills.

Here is my advice, from one who has been through this. DO NOT work for anyone who was a former VP at Oracle. You will regret it. They are not what they are cracked up to be.

Just because one gang of criminals comes in and cleans up another gang of criminals, does not make that gang the good guys. There are no good guys in this situation.

Cleanse yourself of Oracle management present AND past. You will be glad you did. AI is not what it seems to be!

No other company comes even close. The management is made up of zombie-like airheads lacking all logic and all empathy. If someone put a paper bag over their heads they couldn’t find their way out! Seriously, it’s that bad. They can’t figure out how to rate the people under them because they have no clue what they do and have no idea how anything is supposed to be done. Oracle is bizarro-world. I used to think that if I went up the management chain I would eventually find someone who had a clue, but that is not true. There is no one. Clowns managed by even bigger clowns, all of them afraid someone will notice what they are and see past their stupid titles. What a waste of time it was working at Oracle.

This is a gross misrepresentation of facts.

Either you are a VP yourself or naive to be manipulated by the words, not able to judge by actions

Guess what year end shut down is come. Please ensure all the developers are providing coverage so that these orgs can enjoy marshmallows and some quality time for all the hard work they do.

So true, been in support for many years now with little reward and false promises.

VPs here do not take the bashing personally. It is not your fault. Any 3rd grader will have hard time with the reality check. Keep filling up your orgs with bootlickers and kindgergartners to bully.

This is a gross misrepresentation of facts.

Delusional. Think and think again and do not make a fool out of yourself.

What does CX do ? Helps to Create Process where none is needed.

As a developer who has been laid off this week and was in denial, the layoff will be the best thing that has happened. At least I will get my life back.

Guess what year end shut down is come. Please ensure all the developers are providing coverage so that these orgs can enjoy marshmallows and some quality time for all the hard work they do.

Interesting. A developer is actually doing all the work of all these other redundant orgs with VPs and they are being laid off. Looks like a good way to try to make these other orgs relevant. Only mo--ns will follow this strategy.

Guys just move on to greener pastures. Right time to pivot to AI. No point staying with these VP id--ts who want org filled with bootlickers with zero coding or technical skills.

Time is ripe for some VP level consolidation and getting rid of redundant PSR, Release management, fake regression chasers, Ops orgs aka log retrievers, Process champions etc.

“ Improve your skills instead of blaming others.”

Another delusional VP. The reason you exist still is because even a 3rd grader can do what you do. Get a reality check. Liking random posts on linked in is not a skill.

“I know for a fact vp and any senior management works like crazy every effing day.”

Nice to hear from a VP. Some of your rank were retired last week. You better look busy or you may be next.

review the code with engineers

Signs of wrong people with wrong title. In other companies its just managers

They are literally copying from competition

Yep, that’s about right!

VPs reviewing code!!

Needed a good laugh! ROFLMAO!!

What are they going to do? Discuss the fine points of copy and paste?

They responds to emails even in mid night

Sending mails is not work but to create pressure on workers

review the code with engineers

If VPs are reviewing code means they do not trust anyone under them, especially the managers

If the product is not viable after having so many product managers, what are they doing ?

They are literally copying from competition

vp and any senior management works like crazy every effing day

Do you know, if that's the case why CX is failing in market? Should we not avoid crazy to becoming one

This is a gross misrepresentation of facts. ...

Stick to your point of view for 10+ years to realize what is being spoken here. Till then best of luck with mid night work with VPs for peanuts LOL

This is a gross misrepresentation of facts. I dont know which org you belonged to , i know for a fact vp and any senior management works like crazy every effing day. They responds to emails even in mid night, review the code with engineers. They actually are in the call until the issue is resolved. I havnt got a chance to work SVPs. In oracle if you are getting fired , you probably should be. Improve your skills instead of blaming others.

Last day was yesterday for many hardworking and long serving folks in CX. VPs feeling safe with every email they read from the laid off folks.

Only job VPs have is to repost their boss post on linkedin. They race each other who can do that first. Their old exec bosses like this as no one else in this world give them any attention.

Is it true? Sounds horrible. Help other like you save their career. Must share so hard working people know wht they are getting into

Proud to have so many distinguished VPs in our org. CX is in safe hands. They will ensure by layoffs the ratio of VPs to engineers to go as high as 1:1. The only engineer that needs to exist is the one that is currently doing the VPs work a.k.a technical architect.