Thread regarding Centene Corp. layoffs

BREAKING - Centene Poised for Layoffs Next Week, Documents Reveal

A round of layoffs at St. Louis, Mo .-based Centene is set for Oct. 2 to Oct. 5. The plans are detailed in a 13-page set of confidential HR documents entitled “Supporting December Transitions” obtained by Health Payer Specialist. The last day of work for the fired brigade will be Dec. 8, 2023, the HR documents say.

The instructions in the HR documents offer a “notification meeting script” for those due to lose their jobs, one that suggests the number of firings will be large enough to have an impact on Centene’s bottom line.

In one-on-one meetings with employees who will be fired, the HR workers are instructed to say, “Thank you for meeting with me today. Over the last 18 months Centene has been actively working on its Value Creation Plan. . . We are facing headwinds related to the [Medicaid] redetermination process and the impact of Medicare Advantage Star Ratings.”

The script continues, “that unfortunately results in the elimination of your position. Your termination date will be Dec. 8, 2023.”

In the HR documents, the targeted workers are told they have 45 days from termination to sign or refuse to sign an agreement outlining the terms of severance. Workers will get health coverage and other benefits through Dec. 31, 2023.

The HR documents also include a “save the date” notice telling the HR workers of sessions set for Sept. 27 and 28 on “managing employee reactions” to learning they are losing their jobs.

One directive in the documents says the managers will learn to recognize and deal with the signs of shock, defined as when the worker appears “quiet, tearful, sad, and unresponsive.” Another learning module will tell the managers how to deal with worker anger, seen when a soon-to-be former employee “raises voice, holds aggressive posture, becomes argumentative.”

Still others will likely be in denial, seen when the worker “appears confused, avoiding eye contact.” Far easier for the managers will be those with an air of resignation, one who “appears calm, lacking in emotion.”

The training sessions are meant to make it easier on managers as well as the employees being terminated.

The unlucky employees “will exit the organization with respect, care, and concern,” the directives promise.

Centene did not respond to requests to discuss the pending layoffs.

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Post ID: @OP+1oNUjeJa

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@8uyv+1oNUjeJa

I was laid off on Monday, I have received all of the severance paperwork. It would make no sense to sign an agreement two months later with plenty of time to run my mouth, so to speak, if an NDA was involved.

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Post ID: @8ius+1oNUjeJa

Was anyone from Hnfs let go?

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Post ID: @8zei+1oNUjeJa

“No one will see the actual severance AGREEMENT until on or after your last working day. For this wave, the last working day is 12/1. This is when you need to look out for the disparagement clauses, the non-compete clauses, all of the things that are federally protected.”

Not 100% sure this is accurate or legal - quite frankly makes no sense to make someone wait that long to review & sign a legally binding agreement. I know when HealthNet Federal laid of tons of people back in 2018/2019 everyone I knew had their severance agreements given to them weeks before their last physical date to be worked. Unless its changed or they are being underhanded - I advise the consult of an employment attorney.

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Post ID: @8kwd+1oNUjeJa

The point of the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) is to provide workers with job and benefits protections during certain types of unpaid leave. However, protection is not unlimited, and the law does not completely exempt workers from layoffs and terminations—only those directly resulting from the FMLA leave itself.May 9, 2023

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Post ID: @8yng+1oNUjeJa

Reply: I was let go yesterday and my last day is 12/8 and they sent over severance information within 5 min of the meeting.

“No one will see the actual severance AGREEMENT until on or after your last working day. For this wave, the last working day is 12/1. This is when you need to look out for the disparagement clauses, the non-compete clauses, all of the things that are federally protected.”

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Post ID: @8del+1oNUjeJa

Yesterday was my turn. I’m in BTS in St. Louis with 8 years at the company.

9 months pregnant so that’s fun. It seems like a lot of folks going on Mat leave or FMLA were let go.

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Post ID: @8vsr+1oNUjeJa

@8vsp+1oNUjeJa

No one will see the actual severance AGREEMENT until on or after your last working day. For this wave, the last working day is 12/1. This is when you need to look out for the disparagement clauses, the non-compete clauses, all of the things that are federally protected.

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Post ID: @8uyv+1oNUjeJa

that phone alert someone was talking about just went off lol..

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Post ID: @8bmr+1oNUjeJa

I want to stress that signing an NDA in exchange for a severance package is ILLEGAL. Illegal. Federally. Illegal. There are no NDA’s being thrown around in exchange for severance. Everyone is already stressed out, please be mindful of spreading misinformation. <3

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Post ID: @8cpp+1oNUjeJa

Union officials said the planned strike against Kaiser, one of the nation's leading not-for-profit healthcare networks and managed-care organizations, would mark the largest strike ever in the U.S. medical industry.

Kaiser said its hospitals and emergency departments would remain open in the event of a strike, staffed by doctors, managers and other non-union "contingency workers."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/kaiser-permanente-healthcare-workers-head-labor-clash-strike-deadline-looms-2023-10-04/?fbclid=IwAR1wqIHJWH3wmb4cBP5DyGfSdgCha5nRnuCm1WqoOD0Cbc_eFpE9YW9lykU

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Post ID: @8xas+1oNUjeJa

Today’s decision, in contrast, explains that simply offering employees a severance agreement that requires them to broadly give up their rights under Section 7 of the Act violates Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. The Board observed that the employer’s offer is itself an attempt to deter employees from exercising their statutory rights, at a time when employees may feel they must give up their rights in order to get the benefits provided in the agreement

The National Labor Relations board federally ruled that employers can no longer make employees sign an NDA in exchange for their severance package. I was laid off on Monday and have read over the paperwork for hours. No NDA.

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Post ID: @8vsp+1oNUjeJa

I was told that employees are being asked to sign NDA's lest they risk losing their severance.

Wondering if that’s why people are hesitant in posting vague location and dept. understandable of course.

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Post ID: @8jhk+1oNUjeJa

Has anyone been laid off TODAY? 10/4? Haven't seen anyone post about being hit today yet....

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Post ID: @8ajk+1oNUjeJa

Hey @8psz I copied your post on Severance to the main page at /centene - I am hoping more people will see it there and we'll be able to post below your original contnent

Just go to /centene and look for a thread called "Severance Tracker"

Or you can go straight to it @OP+1oV6deCP

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Post ID: @8tqb+1oNUjeJa

Anyone affected in CA Ops yet?

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Post ID: @8gjh+1oNUjeJa

I wonder how many of those people that were clapping and cheering for these crooks at the TownHall were laid off.

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Post ID: @8mhf+1oNUjeJa

"What state and dept? "

Illinois Medicaid UM

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Post ID: @8yyn+1oNUjeJa

Were you provided with details on how they determined severance package length? For example, based on years of service, position level, etc.?

No. Was told to expect a letter in workday. It was there within 15min or so.

Here’s your last day
Here’s your # week’s severance
how long your insurance is valid
How long “outplacement assistance “

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Post ID: @8psz+1oNUjeJa

"Just heard my PL is out. :( They're not even with the company now. Just gone. 0 warning. No one is safe."

What state, dept, or any other information you feel comfortable sharing? I've noticed a few PL that left yesterday and haven't been back on today...

I've been laid off and was told I could take the rest of that day and the following day off if I needed to (I most certainly did), it's possible your PL will be back on tomorrow

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Post ID: @8lav+1oNUjeJa

Were layoffs for BTS completed yesterday? Or are more expected today and tomorrow?

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Post ID: @8dmf+1oNUjeJa

"Just heard my PL is out. :( They're not even with the company now. Just gone. 0 warning. No one is safe."

What state, dept, or any other information you feel comfortable sharing? I've noticed a few PL that left yesterday and haven't been back on today...

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Post ID: @8ckb+1oNUjeJa

What state and dept?

"we were gutted yesterday, nothing so far today, only 10 of us left that haven't been notified....eerily quiet today"

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Post ID: @8ewm+1oNUjeJa

we were gutted yesterday, nothing so far today, only 10 of us left that haven't been notified....eerily quiet today

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Post ID: @8vsz+1oNUjeJa

BTS IT is not safe, either. We are losing a lead and a senior dev, both great employees. No idea how they chose.

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Post ID: @8rzc+1oNUjeJa

Just heard my PL is out. :( They're not even with the company now. Just gone. 0 warning. No one is safe.

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Post ID: @8vam+1oNUjeJa

No way it’s just 2000 people, they are doing more cuts just not telling us the final number.

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Post ID: @8ivf+1oNUjeJa

Tell me more about the 3rd round...

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Post ID: @8thr+1oNUjeJa

Any Sunshine Health updates?

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Post ID: @8mau+1oNUjeJa

Absolutely. I’m was just shy of a year. Got the boot. I was shocked that they offered a severance package for <1 year employees.

Were you provided with details on how they determined severance package length? For example, based on years of service, position level, etc.?

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Post ID: @8ixz+1oNUjeJa

Meaning of 2 more rounds....

There was a hush hush round in August with last days Oct 6th...then this round and they mentioned November/December round :(

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Post ID: @8rri+1oNUjeJa

The final countdown… This should be done on weekends only while I’m home giving my wine bottle CPR! I don’t like working under pressure, not knowing if this is my doomsday! We know nothing!!

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Post ID: @8fej+1oNUjeJa

Everyone does not know about this site yet:( or they do know and just don’t want to post. There’s more people who got let go, a lot of people have no where to vent or ask questions. I feel bad for a lot of people especially the expecting mothers.💔

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Post ID: @8unq+1oNUjeJa

Anyone who works for PA Health and Wellness get laid off??

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Post ID: @8yin+1oNUjeJa

Regarding an earlier question about non-compete clauses for people seeking employment with other insurance companies:

"On May 30, 2023, U.S. National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) General Counsel Jennifer Abruzzo issued an agency-wide memo announcing her position that — except in limited circumstances — non-compete provisions in employment contracts and severance agreements violate Section 7 of the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA)."

https://www.healthcarenewssite.com/articles/10-2023/joneswalker-1023.php

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Post ID: @8cuk+1oNUjeJa

@8nqk+1oNUjeJa, did you watch Sarah and Drew, Drew slipped the lip and stated basically more to come and others on the board “ who knows” said there will be.. hope not but I have a sneaking suspicion there will be @8nqk+1oNUjeJa. Also who was let go?

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Post ID: @8wbt+1oNUjeJa

@8twx+1oNUjeJa What do you mean by two more rounds?

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Post ID: @8rxy+1oNUjeJa

Will there be more layoffs at Health Net of CA today ?

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Post ID: @8uvo+1oNUjeJa

@8nqk+1oNUjeJa, let’s hope 🤞🏿 , we still have two rounds coming maybe more according to post and Drew.

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Post ID: @8twx+1oNUjeJa

I got the call that I was being let go on Monday and people on my team and department are still being let go today. I believe the process is random, there’s no way to know when they’re “done”.

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Post ID: @8cvr+1oNUjeJa

Does anyone know if there have been any layoffs in NC (more specifically, CCH/CCHN). I know Medicaid expansion was just approved in NC but the unknown is giving me severe anxiety.

There were layoffs in August so I am not sure if they are including those people in the 2000 totals.

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