Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Open Ethics or HR case and getting displaced

Anyone had an open case (meaning you called and a case opened on your behalf) and got laid off while the case was still open??

WF has become a h3ll hole, peers are toxic, manager does nothing but bury head in the sand and it’s becoming unbearable. I’ve been holding out for lay off & severance as our work is now duplicative and can easily be picked up by another team, BUT according to Director level sources that isn’t likely to happen anytime soon.

I am fed up but also don’t want to lose my chances of severance. My concern is that an open HR or Ethics case opened on my behalf may flag me as a potential employee lawsuit risk for retaliation and I may NOT be displaced due to that. I know that sounds absurd as WF is far from proactive about risks but I’ve never called HR on someone and I need to consider that. I do know that little to nothing will come out of me calling in the end but also feel like enough is enough. At a minimum, the BS will be on record.

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Post ID: @OP+1ne9v4E6

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Opened a case and it worked out very well financially for me. living in my truth and integrity was my goal. The “ don’t go to hr theme” did not deter me at all. Would do it again if needed. I’m still here and highly doubt I will get a lay off.

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Post ID: @3ksz+1ne9v4E6

@1ehp+1ne9v4E6

The main take away I had from your post is that you went on intermittent medical leave.

I would encourage you to hand write each and every coworker a letter, notarized, apologizing to them for making their lives stressful.

Next, I would take your direct manager out to lunch and during the lunch let him know that you realize nothing you could ever say or do can make things better, but that you are sorry for the he-l you put him and his family through.

You do all that, and karma may get off your back going forward.

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Post ID: @2ism+1ne9v4E6

Lawyer up instead. HR is worthless. This place is used to paying out lawsuit $$$$$$

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Post ID: @2fhu+1ne9v4E6

I had opened a case with Ethics because my manager had singled me out as a trouble-maker and she was making it difficult to perform my job role. Yes, had I asked her what EXACTLY my performance was being rated on, and she could not tell me, just kept re-reading the vague nonsense that was written down as if I couldn't read. Her entire team witnessed me being targeted by the manager for many months.

I later went on intermittent medical leave. I had to be away from work for x-many hours per day like twice a week, which was a well-documented and thorough process.

Next thing I know, I've been laid off. Manager said it had nothing to do with my performance, and nothing to do with the fact that she and I had a contentious relationship. Evidentially, my position was being eliminated. The End.

Except she was magically able to bring over someone from her former team at the same time I was sent packing, which of course doesn't make any sense.

Make no mistake: HR is not your friend.

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Post ID: @1ehp+1ne9v4E6

We had a woman file a complaint against a manager in our department. She was a trouble-maker, but she also had a valid complaint against her manager. Even though Wells claims the process is anonymous, our whole department knew about it. The third-party who handles these complaints is somehow more incompetent than Wells.

End result: Wells determined the manager was “innocent”. She kept her job, but was shunned by everyone afterwards. Manager avoided speaking to her or in front of her. There were several layoffs in our area but never her. She eventually quit.

If you have a valid complaint, just know what you’re getting in to before moving forward.
Good luck.

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Post ID: @1lom+1ne9v4E6

@1lvd+1ne9v4E6

Yes it does. As a mgr, I am terrified of employees that are capable of filing ethics cases/legal cases. I know that I have to walk on eggshells around them and watch everything I say. Not someone I want to mess with.

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Post ID: @1nqq+1ne9v4E6

Opening an ethics case does not shield you from a mass layoff.

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Post ID: @1lvd+1ne9v4E6

You need a lawyer, not HR, if you have a case. A letter does a lot. All while looking for another job.

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Post ID: @1lio+1ne9v4E6

Do not call. You will open yourself up to be fired. Keep quiet. This place does not care

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Post ID: @1itl+1ne9v4E6

"unbearable" is exactly what Hudson Yards is going for.

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Post ID: @1vdq+1ne9v4E6

If you're opening HR cases you're probably a pain in your manager's bu-t so naturally she'd pick you to displace.

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Post ID: @1gts+1ne9v4E6

rule #1 don't ever call HR--they only protect the bank not employees
rule #2 see rule #1

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Post ID: @1lts+1ne9v4E6

You could always, you know, just find another job

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Post ID: @1swv+1ne9v4E6

Do what’s right and the rest will work its way out.

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Post ID: @1gfg+1ne9v4E6

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