Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

CIB Europe?

Forget about Manilla or Hyderabad. All banks are aggressively doing outsourcing, although we are very late in the game than our peers (as usual, unsurprisingly).

One thing often not discussed here is another international elephant in the room, although I know some people who are really unhappy on how things are being run in International.

The thing is…we barely show up in any league tables and can’t get our act together here, yet we have a huge CIB banking team in Europe fairly comparable in size to the US? And can’t believe most of them are Directors or above?

There are job cuts left and right across all LOBs including CIB here and we are aggressively shrinking and selling our bread and butter businesses in the US all the while subsidising an unprofitable, unscalable international business with an extremely high, unsustainable efficiency ratio? What is exactly the end game here? Keep throwing money at the problem to see if its sticks? But we’ve been doing that now for how many years? Time to scale back or exit?

International is not making any money. Returns are abysmally low compared to the US. Without constant subsidisation or committing huge capital to “win” some low profile, small investment banking deals, International is guaranteed to remain in a sorry state. Invest the resources here where we have the connections and relationships before they go away!

If it were the 80s or 90s maybe all of this sh**show (subsidising international business at the cost American business) may have made sense and could’ve even been considered as a long term investment but as an irrelevant newcomer with extremely limited product capability outside of the US, we are just wasting our resources and money everyday.

With no or extremely weak controls in place, we are setting ourselves for a potential foreign consent order or MRA this time. I’m sure none of us wants that. It’s time to really rethink international and stop trying to be a wannabe Citi or BOA. We’re just too late, wake up!

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OP- This is an excellent post. Thank you.

Post ID: @bhh+1mbELEVI
Don’t be fooled.. Offshoring rolled right along under Trump. I’m 100% against offshoring, and however Trump advocated for US jobs, it did not prevent companies from offshoring one bit.

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Post ID: @pnz+1mbELEVI

Europe does not have so many backdoors like H1-B. We can replace you and me with outsourcing and H1-B everyday and it is business as usual in US. Other countries actually protect their workers.

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@bhh+1mbELEVI

OP here, to be clear, while there are some truths to what you said, I am not trying to appeal to any nativist sentiment here. My only problem is that International is not making any money, people leading the business over there is weak and there are no consequences to their poor business performance. No meaningful job cuts, bloated banking team not making any serious money, yet they are paid well while our colleagues here are being laid off constantly. The whole situation is just messed up and unfair, that’s all.

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Post ID: @dxl+1mbELEVI

So send a note to JW

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Post ID: @obh+1mbELEVI

Globalist agenda......SVB is from Netherlands where family has huge international ties. He wants you RTO, and a mass migration of out sourced jobs; primarily technology and project management. That along with a Chinese Nationalist as head of HR suggests the Destruction of WF (they destroyed all of our tech procedures, risk management, tools, and methodology.....putting YOUR data and customer financial data all of the CLOUD (not safe) of and how is agile working for you ...LMAF) and the US banking system.
If this IS the trend in US banking a call to Nationalize the US banks will start to rise.
A view to consider....the last administration restricted offshore jobs (a tax on all positions not filled in US), and wanted to pull the US currency and a banking processes out of an association with the FED (an organization of globalists)
You get what you vote for.......

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Post ID: @bhh+1mbELEVI

It will be Goldman Sachs issue ro clean up this fall after they acquire a large chunk of Wells Fargo in a "merger".

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Post ID: @hfl+1mbELEVI

FRTO

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