Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

So Much for the Benefits of 5 Day RTO

Outlook and teams down. And here we are, sitting in the office five days a week, unable to do our actual jobs because the very technology we rely on to work is unavailable.

Think about how ridiculous this is. We’re forced to commute, sit in designated seats, and swipe badges every day under the premise that being physically present makes us more productive and collaborative. Yet when the technology goes down, being in the office doesn’t magically make us capable of still doing our jobs.

We’re a global communications company with geographically dispersed teams, relying on digital tools to do our work regardless of where we’re sitting. Five-day RTO hasn’t changed that one bit.

Maybe it’s time leadership finally acknowledges that RTO was never the productivity solution they claimed it was. You can’t force people into an office and pretend that somehow makes a modern, technology-dependent workforce more effective. What a joke.


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Stop the RTO complaining! If this requirement is a dealbreaker, simply find another job. For everyone claiming that other companies have better remote policies and higher revenue per employee, why aren’t you applying to work there? The elephant in the room is that almost every discussion thread features employees openly bragging about doing everything except work at home—golfing, running errands, and watching movies. If you owned a business, would you allow remote work under those conditions? Sadly, these individuals have ruined remote work for everyone else by proving why management feels the need to enforce strict oversight. If you can land a WFH position elsewhere, please take it.

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@ay ah yes, let me break out my typewriter and draft a memo. I’ll have my secretary run it across the office and grab me a pack of cigarettes on the way back.

Wake up boomer, the world has changed and it’s clearly passed you by. You and John Stink have no clue how the modern world works.

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Post ID: @dp+1m794vf4p

There are no benefits to RTO. RTO is a layoff and nothing else. Stink doesn’t know how to innovate so he says “return to office” like it’s some groundbreaking concept that will change the business.

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Post ID: @dn+1m794vf4p

Outlook and teams down. And here we are, sitting in the office five days a week, unable to do our actual jobs because the very technology we rely on to work is unavailable.

Look on the bright:
The company was able to reduce headcount via RTO and continue to get tax breaks from municipalities who threatened revocation of tax breaks.

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Post ID: @d7+1m794vf4p

@ay “ The real benefit of RTO is disrupting this exact behavior. In-person work forces people to actually collaborate, bounce ideas around, and communicate directly”

Spoken like a true corporate lemming. We waste time schlepping to these useless offices to put on headphones so we don’t have to hear everyone else’s Teams calls and almost all interactions are via email, Teams and other virtual tools. In the three years we have been forced back to the office, I can count on one hand the number of real business meetings (not just some executive “listening” sessions) I have had where everyone is in person in the same room. My team has NEVER all met in person and we have had mostly the same crew since RTO started. The “collaboration” at these offices is mostly BS socializing.

Our company’s stated purpose is that our internet and wireless services connect people from anywhere. The years we successfully worked virtually proved it yet our execs see this as pointless fluff for foolish consumers.

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Post ID: @d1+1m794vf4p

maybe your employer just wants you at work in exchange for a paycheck.

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Post ID: @cx+1m794vf4p

" In-person work forces people to actually collaborate, bounce ideas around, and communicate directly."
Most of the people in my office barely speak English-ergo zero of that statement can be accomplished.

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Post ID: @ct+1m794vf4p

@ay in theory you are correct, on paper that sounds good, in the real world doesn’t work like that. Everyone is scattered across the globe, we aren’t allowed to travel, the team is all over the place. A lot of people have no one to collaborate with, so being in the office is a waste of time and space for most of them. Funny how our international people don’t have to be in an office.

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Post ID: @cn+1m794vf4p

"The real benefit of RTO is disrupting this exact behavior"

This is the d-mbest hot take on this I've seen today. Can't open emails, can't get into meetings can't even work on a word doc or powerpoint. Being close enough to people to smell their farts doesn't do a thing for this. Non technical work ground to a halt, can't even schedule work cause you can't notify any customers.

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Post ID: @ck+1m794vf4p

@ay

No. It does not "force people to actually collaborate, bounce ideas around, and communicate directly."

No one, as far as i can tell, is interested or engaged in that cr-p. We communicate almost exclusively online. If those frameworks are out of service, there is no interest in fallback plans or reverting to century-old practices.

Shocking as it may seem, the outage didn't bring us together to clasp hands and sing "cumbaya".

Not sure whose boot is jammed down your esophagus but I fear it may be damaging your cognitive functions.

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Post ID: @cc+1m794vf4p

A sizzling hot and fresh take.

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Post ID: @be+1m794vf4p

Reading through this thread, it seems T employees can only function when logged into MS 365. Now I understand why posters say T is no longer innovative—it looks like employees are addicted to their screens, trapped in endless email chains, and perpetually stuck on team calls.

The real benefit of RTO is disrupting this exact behavior. In-person work forces people to actually collaborate, bounce ideas around, and communicate directly. Employees ought to be capable of functioning without leaning constantly on these digital crutches; businesses survived and innovated without them for over 100 years.

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Post ID: @ay+1m794vf4p

So tomorrow I’ll commute and show up and have nothing to do because all our work is done on teams. Isn’t this pointless?

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Post ID: @aq+1m794vf4p

It was a great day. I watched a movie. Took a nap in my car then went home. If I was allowed to work from home, I’d make up for the downtime tonight but not allowed to work from home so it’ll wait until tomorrow

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Post ID: @af+1m794vf4p

“I am not in the same office with anybody I work with.”

Bless your heart.

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Post ID: @ae+1m794vf4p

If you can’t work without outlook and teams then what is your job?

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Post ID: @aa+1m794vf4p

@a3 communicate about what? I am not in the same office with anybody I work with.

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Post ID: @a9+1m794vf4p

@a3 bingo. Being in the office or not makes no difference. That is the point. So why force it.

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Post ID: @a7+1m794vf4p

This is precisely why RTO is needed. You can still collaborate and team build for winning. At home you probably just went golfing and ran errands instead of doing the need full. Always do the need full neighbour...

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Post ID: @a4+1m794vf4p

Ok but if everyone is wfh how does that help. This product is still down. If you are in the same office you can still communicate.
I'm not a bootlicker. Just a mature adult who can see things from a practical angle.

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Post ID: @a3+1m794vf4p

OP -- Productivity was never the purpose for 5xRTO. It always was intended to make the environment so miserable so that people would quit instead of having to be layed off.

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Post ID: @a2+1m794vf4p

Bruh just quit then

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