Thread regarding Fiserv Inc. layoffs

So how exactly are they going to get an extra $500 million in savings without significant layoffs?

To me the most alarming thing out of these Q3 results is their savings target from the original $500 million to a $1 billion.

Takis said they introduced AI and machine learning with Clover risk holds which were a manual review process. Those decision times supposedly declined two-thirds and false positives fell by more than 40%. Then there's the customer contact centers. We have AI agents developed with Sierra that achieved a containment rate above 40%. That means the AI can handle a substantial proportion of interactions without a human agent needing to take over.

You literally have a redesign that reduced the required manual workload by 40% with AI. If you had 100 employees doing that, now you only need 60.

And if you assume the total annual employer cost of one position (including salary, benefits, payroll taxes, other employment costs etc) is $125,000, that's 4,000 employees you could cut to make that additional $500 million. And Fiserv already cut 3,000 employees/contractors between Q2 and Q3 so that seems like a doable figure.

The CFO said most of the expected savings would come after 2027 though, so there's still time at least.

But this is looking grim for a lot of us. It was already nerve racking when you had to deal with offshoring work and automation, but now you add in AI and Fiserv doing significant cost cutting...we are sc--wed. Sure find another company to work for but if it's in the same line of work/industry...you know our competitors are doing the exact same thing we are. There is only jumping into another fire out of the frying pan.

I don't like this future.


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Post ID: @OP+1m6n1e1v4

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@n3 GENIUS. I understand why platform consolidation is necessary.. Payments Exchange is profitable and low-maintenance. EPP, in its current state, isn't ready to absorb it. Migrating Payments Exchange onto EPP, or whatever EPP evolves into, is likely a five-year effort at minimum. We'd be giving up something that works well for something we already have reason to believe won't work yet. Has anyone compared the cost and support burden of the Payments Exchange team against EPP, including its sales?

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Post ID: @s0+1m6n1e1v4

@OP Fiserv is going to ki-l redundant platforms or those with no feasible growth pathway, sell them off, and layoff/offshore staff. Think about it this way, how many people support any part of legacy cores or products like Payments Exchange, etc? With CoreAdvance and EPP plus anyone not being cross trained, expect to get the boot sooner rather than later. Fiserv wants CS to be a skeleton crew and PS to be all contract/offshore. The segments are going to create account team “pools” so they can have a team of 5-10 RM/AMs serving like 100 accounts sold as better coverage, but in reality it will just be less personable service than ever. The big wigs want to reduce everything gradually, selling off chunks they can use to buy back stock with. Just serving large clients with borderline boutique software that they can in turn split off into sale opportunities.

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Post ID: @n3+1m6n1e1v4

@ef the evidence of more and more large enterprises pulling back from AI as the price increases, productivity slows, and projects fail? AI works best for small scale development and middle manager busy work. Neither move the needle in any real sense. Want a POC for a new feature or app, AI can deliver fast, want to build a real working product integrated into a larger platform that can be meaningfully scaled and supported, AI su-ks hard. If you are just taking inputs and turning them into outputs no one reads with no real transformation on your end, yeah it looks impressive. If you actually know what you are talking about, AI looks like that leader talking too much in a call on a topic they’ve only read the executive summary slide on.

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Post ID: @my+1m6n1e1v4

Oh no they invented light bulbs! What will us candle makers do!
I know it su-ks, and it's hard, but I didn't expect my job to stay the same for them next couple decades I needs to have one. Keep learning, adapt, and change or we'll get left behind.
Nobody is paying secretaries to take down notes anymore. That used to be a whole career path.

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Post ID: @mh+1m6n1e1v4

@b5 The frontier models are so much more sophisticated than they were a year ago. The kind of cognitive work it can do now is staggering. I'm still a bit of a skeptic but the evidence is becoming too hard to ignore and the implications of it to many occupations out there. I really hope you don't still think chatbots can't spell the word "strawberry" or fumble basic arithmetic. You can design and build systems where producing hallucinations is much more difficult.

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Post ID: @ef+1m6n1e1v4

@b5 I lost my job due to offshoring to India. AI didn't factor in, cheap labor did.

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Post ID: @bx+1m6n1e1v4

Already got some significant savings when Takis stopped the corrupt payouts to ML’s buddies as part of this initiative

Some of you are blind to how bad ML was

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Post ID: @bw+1m6n1e1v4

@OP the savings are from layoffs

Everyone is ignoring that AI output is slop and hallucinations. Not just fiserv. Things are going to get extremely messy with the inevitable poor outcomes

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Post ID: @b5+1m6n1e1v4

AI can't flip burgers. Come apply your talents at Wendy's!

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