Thread regarding Xerox Corp. layoffs

Goodwill

GG here:

Well folks. Today is the day we all saw coming a mile away. As of this morning and the Goodwill write down, XRX has a total enterprise value lower that its debt.

Technically, XRX is worth more dead, than alive.

What can we expect now? Perhaps:

A lower bond rating? This could actually help XRX in the short term, it they use cash to buy back debt for pennies on the dollar. Knowing what we know now, a CCC+ rating might be generous.

A supply chain, chain reaction? LP admitted in the call that vendors are restricting credit, which forces spot payments, or rotating to higher priced vendors willing to shoulder the credit risk for inflated prices charged. He didn't let that slip on accident; he said it because he had to, his hand was forced and he had to disclose. Vendors are the lifeblood of a business and when credit is cut off, that is game over. We are near that point now. Every major vendor was on that call today and heard the same thing you did form LP.

Slow pay, no pay? On the flip side are the people that pay XRX, and the doom loop effects these people too. How excited are people to renew service with a proprietary vendor that could go belly up? Also, there are a lot of gross people out there that will slow pay, no pay a vendor they think is going belly up, as to buy time at 0$ interest or see if the bill disappears in CH11 proceedings.

New business? People who are already in bed with XRX in the form of proprietary hardware are one thing, but net new clients are another. Why would anyone sign up for that kind of vendor risk? Large companies won't, just the small and uninformed.

TL;DR from the call:
Vendors are cutting us off.
We are worth $1BN less than we were on Monday.
We can no longer pay dividends.
Sales are down.
Cash is gone.
We are blaming this all on the price of Oil and RAM.


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Post ID: @OP+1m64fc974

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Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnnn….

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Post ID: @fp+1m64fc974

@db that is not a thing.

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Post ID: @dz+1m64fc974

Wrong 👆👇

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Post ID: @dv+1m64fc974

@db The ITsavvy people haven't been made to sign it yet. Just a non-compete, non-solicit.

Id there are any class action lawyers on here, go for the old ITsavvy people to join your suit.

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Post ID: @dk+1m64fc974

@d7 a few years ago they made us sign a declaration that we would not sue the company, even in a class action. that was a condition of employment

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Post ID: @db+1m64fc974

There are plenty of lawsuits underway right now. I have been contacted twice to join class actions. By phone! I told them both they are wasting their time. And they will all end up the same way - still in court years after XRX is insolvent. It seems people either don’t understand or are willfully ignoring the horrific condition of the financials. XRX actually reported growth for 4 quarters and nobody said a word. I bet the lawyers won’t even get paid.

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Post ID: @d7+1m64fc974

@OP How long before we see shareholder lawsuits that the financial condition of the company was misrepresented in prior earnings discussions? Does anyone else think it's crazy that they are blaming oil prices and IT hardware vendors expecting to be paid net 30 on the financial debacle? What about the price of mayonnaise?

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Post ID: @bj+1m64fc974

Wrong 👆👇

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Post ID: @bg+1m64fc974

You made a good point, I can't see big companies renewing if they are paying attention; why take the risk.

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Post ID: @bf+1m64fc974

I suspect they manage very nicely but how do LP and CB, and to a lesser extent our CRO, CDO and CMO sleep at night?!? (Although CB is down the diner most nights)

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Post ID: @ar+1m64fc974

Goodwill Guy is the hero we need right now. Thank you, GG. Your insight/context is actually substantive, and much appreciated.

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Post ID: @a8+1m64fc974

XRX is now worth less than Brad Pitt.

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Post ID: @a5+1m64fc974

“I am not reading all that”
“I’m happy for you tho”
“Or sorry that happened”

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