Thread regarding SAS Institute layoffs

What about those working 35 hour work weeks? Do they earn vacation at the same rate as those working 40 hour work weeks?

I have a lot of days I need to start burning, and honestly will be surprised if I can pull it off.

I suspect lots of people are going to end up losing some days.

SAS comes out on top.

@b7 "Employees have the remainder of 2026 and 2027 to use available vacation under the current program before the new vacation program takes effect on Jan. 1, 2028. "

"I don't think it's fair to say someone is foolish to bank vacation. The idea might be to have some extra money when being downsized. Otherwise, enjoy the 2 extra months off in 2027. I will."

Exactly. I was very happy to have almost 40 days banked when I took a package.

I don't think it's fair to say someone is foolish to bank vacation. The idea might be to have some extra money when being downsized. Otherwise, enjoy the 2 extra months off in 2027. I will.

You should aim to end 2027 with 0 days because everyone starts 2028 with 5 “free” days already.

@cq bollocks! Cheerio pip pip! Put it in the boot! Jolly good sir! Ahahahah

"What happens to vacation people have already banked? --- ANSWER: This is why they told us a year in advance. Anyone with a bunch of banked days can only carry 5 days from 2026 into 2027. Once it's EOY 2027, you must have used ALL your allotted and/or carried vacation days by Dec. 31, 2027 or you lose all vacation days that have not been taken."

Absolute bollocks! Apparently you can read, but reading comprehension is lacking?

You can only carry 5 days from 2027 into 2028.

All this was very clearly explained on the SWW. Can you not read? 🙄

Assuming you can, try this. 👇🏻

Employers below director will get 20 days a year, with only five days rolling over, while directors get unlimited vacation --- CORRECT.

Does the 20-day amount apply regardless of years of service? --- YES.

What happens to vacation people have already banked? --- ANSWER: This is why they told us a year in advance. Anyone with a bunch of banked days can only carry 5 days from 2026 into 2027. Once it's EOY 2027, you must have used ALL your allotted and/or carried vacation days by Dec. 31, 2027 or you lose all vacation days that have not been taken.

Does the five-day rollover limit start in 2028? -- NO. It starts in 2027. We can only carry a max of 5 days from 2026 into 2027. Employees cannot carry ANY days from 2027 into 2028.

Will there be any option to cash out unused days? -- NOPE. Are you loco? Do you honestly think SAS is going to pay out $68 million in unused days? Keep dreaming. Use your days or lose them. If you were foolish and banked 20, 30 or more days, you better start scheduling days off ASAP.

And how will “unlimited” vacation work for directors in practice? --- What's the question here if you're not director or above? The anointed ones can take as many days as they please. They can rack up vacation days in Workday without any limit. There are no different "takes" on it. Unlimited means unlimited.

Think about all of the above when you're smarting from not getting a raise this coming spring and maybe getting a cr-ppy "bonus" because your "goals" and the "company goals" are so out of whack with reality that no one can meet them. Think about it when your director and adjacent VPs are taking fabulous vacations 4 or 5 times a year and driving expensive cars and tacking on extra days to their international trips that the company pays for. Definitely think about it when your friends and relatives are getting equity worth something from their employers, not just health insurance and dusty M&Ms.

We already knew there were haves and have-nots here. Now it's in our faces.

Go read the other thread, pretty self explanatory.