@fa Wu and his group are absolutely crapping all over everything they touch. What a disaster.
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@fa Yes, just more power to the spreadsheet jockeys to manipulate more.
Cut anything A.I. and if data science resources don't want to work inside the business units directly to solve problems cut them too. At least the spreadsheet jockeys get thiings done
@ey sometimes destroying value is the job. like the REIT that made rich people richer....
Too bad it wasnt DO or KG to get laid off.
@ef the handbook is anything but a contract and has typical ambiguity that leaves it up to discretion. everything is couched in "at-will" model so expect each lay-off to be unique
@ed Check the employee handbook...if it's not there then expect nothing and be surprised if you get anything.
@ec Telecom has a layoff culture. Uniti/Win are particularly notorious and a unique breed. My career has been split between telecom and another industry and I have noticed most at this company have only done telecom and very few have been outside Uniti/Win. Good luck to you all. Go to a vendor or take some risk and start over in another industry that isn't dependent on AI any single ISP. When AI collapses it will hurt telecom for a while along with any job with AI in the description.
@e5 was 12 weeks linked to service years or what was the formula?
@e7 Top producers should not worry about being laid off. There are much better work environments out there. Best place to work awards are a phony cover up for what it’s truly like there. The environment there is rancid compared to other employers.
@e6 Top producers ask to be laid off all the time. Top producers also often ask the right questions, speak truth to power, and have fall-back options. No loyalty anymore on either side of employment
a lot of top producers my manager who was 2 on the Kinetic side
I was given 12 weeks
https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@b8+1m5j8hsbd
And an ops VP.
@ac OPS director
@ap Telecom - Where the only real competition is internal between departments over who gets to be king/queen of which hill and for how long. Govt subsidies and disastrous REIT financial engineering is what the companies compete against each other over.
@aj Welcome to Telecom. Shrinking white collar jobs from consolidation and commodification of assets. If you aren't in field operations or doing something hard outside you'll be subject to ever increasing levels of passive aggressiveness, shallowness, and the most connected people with the best survival strategy will last the longest fighting over shrinking number of roles.
Telecom is like Game of Thrones or Survivor Island. Make alliances, plot, scheme, and lose sleep over things that don't even matter to the customer.
Welcome to the start of the 4th Quarter.
What is the severance nowadays? Any know or is it still on a case by case
@ad Are you talking pay ratio or body count? 25:1 could be either of those.
What is the ratio of laid off worker bees to new Directors and VP's announced? 25 to 1?
Which org?
Heard there was a big event today. What org?
Worst director I’ve ever worked for. Glad to see him go.
Anyone know who was affected?
Well, he cannot complain about his number being picked when he used to be the one that picked the numbers. With that said, I am thankful for him picking my number, last group to get a severance at Windstream and got a better paying job with less stress.