i love all you people complaining about how much your employees cost. if you don't like how expensive they are, then go pay one of your cheap employees to do it and let them find another job elsewhere. problem solved. otherwise, sounds like you need them, and if you need them, that's where the increase comes from.
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@j4 then they shouldn't complain about not being paid $250,000! I'm not arguing they're worth as people. But I am arguing their worth on the market
@ht it says "degreed professional staff". If admins have degrees or not, it's not a lark for me to think it's incredible to compare an admin vs a geo, an MBA, a lawyer, etc.
if an admin making less than $100,000 a year is comparing him or herself to one of these m roles, that is nonsense.
We need to be looking at apples versus apples
@h9 Many, if not most, admins have bachelor’s degrees. A few even have MBA and other advanced degrees. They have chosen their work because they really enjoy helping others.
@h9 do you think admins aren't degreed?
Not trying to argue just curious
@h3 , of course. But, SURELY, an admin doesn't actually believe he/she should be comparing him/herself to degrees/advanced degrees professional staff?
Bringing me (@en) back to my original statement.
@en most of your OCA( admins) will be lucky to ever see 100k in their career.
@en gas station clerk. Lol
@c8 What on earth do you do at Exxon Mobil that pays "way less less than $150k"?
I can't even think of a (real) role!
@ck GenX.
There, I said it again.
One more time for good measure:
(((GenX)))
And your generation might be the biggest sellouts (posers) in human history.
@bb Again, same boomer/GenX problem.
Knowledge work is not an assembly line. There’s no hourly quota for the amount of documentation produced. A knowledge worker is paid for the value of the output. A good white-collar worker can produce millions of dollars worth of added value for a fraction of the cost.
Get your head out of the 20th century or leave the workforce.
@cf You need to type this in all-caps and start a separate thread. I don’t think the people in the back heard it.
Keep Gen X out your dirty mouth. I’m a Gen Xr but unfortunately 90% of the people who have failed me here are Gen X. I have to say poor parenting by their boomer parents.
Nobody around here works. All of you do nothing other than sitting in an air-conditioned office, drinking free coffee, attending meetings about meetings, moving numbers around on spreadsheets, and collecting a six-figure salary. And you're all miserable because the guy in the next cubicle makes $100,000 more than you. So what? He's getting paid $250,000 to do nothing while you're getting paid $150,000 to do nothing. You're BOTH winning. But somehow you've managed to turn one of the most comfortable arrangements in human history into a personal tragedy. There are people digging ditches in 100-degree heat for a fraction of your salary, and you're sore because Bob got classified as a HiPo. At some point, you have to ask yourself whether your job actually su-ks or you've just run out of real problems. Comparison is the thief of joy. And apparently, Bob stole yours for an extra $100,000 a year.
I make way less than the 150k and I average 50+ hours a week...
I know someone over the 150k here who averages 70-80 a week
I think it depends what business line you are in and what slack you have to pick up for those who coffebreak al the time and gab gab
@at That's actually true. Nothing matter more at XOM than networking...
This is why all of the office jobs will be sent to India. It’s been an ongoing issue since Covid and the company realized office people were only on their computers a little over an hour a day. Why pay someone in the US that really isn’t doing any real work when they can get someone in India to do it?
@at This is why the boomers and GenX dragged everyone back to the office. They grew up on these d-mb office sitcoms and spent their entire lives living out the lame-a$$ plots.
The actual work might take 10 hours a week max. These old people also equate hours spent at a desk with productivity and value. Makes zero sense on this century.
I try to work below 40hrs like actual work takes 1-2 hrs a week and everything else is socializing and networking with peers, BS with older people who make huge salaries but don’t do much, and also make sure I take bathroom breaks every 15-30 min, and take coffee breaks every hour so I can network more with people in kitchen area. I’m a recent A&M grad and got told that networking is the only thing that counts, not the actual work. But if you consider networking as a work than I work 40+ a week.