Thread regarding Bank of New York Mellon Corp. layoffs

Corporate year-end purge anxiety: How do benefits, open enrollment, and severance actually interact

Hey everyone. Like many in financial services right now, the year-end anxiety is real (especially with earnings looking rough and whispers of a Q4 purge). I’m trying to game-plan my benefits and coverage without tipping my hand to HR or putting myself on their radar. Today's JPM results even makes it dicey.

Open enrollment for 2027 is right around the corner. If I get cut by year-end, what actually happens if I go through open enrollment now and fund an FSA for next year?

I have a few specific questions for those who have actually been through this:

Open Enrollment & Severance: If I elect coverage for 2027 during open enrollment and select an FSA, but get let go in December, does that company-backed election stick for 2027, or does it vanish when employment terminates? I’ve heard mixed things about "20 weeks of premium" or how severance handles it.

The Open Market Trap: If severance pays out normally (MD says 2 weeks/year is still ON for normal layoffs), my income for the year will spike way above any ACA subsidy thresholds, leaving me vulnerable if I have to buy full-price on the open market.

Spousal Backup Plan: I'm considering preemptively moving to my spouse's part-time employer HMO plan during their open enrollment. It’s restrictive (narrow network, bad dr-g tier, no dental), but it offers a safety net.

If you’ve survived or lived through a banking/corporate layoff right around Q4, how did you handle this? Did you trust the internal open enrollment, or jump ship to a spouse's plan immediately? Any concrete insights would be massively appreciated.


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When are people hearing for 4Q rounds of layoffs? Early December?

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Post ID: @eq+1m4tnm7h3

@OP I am the original @be. If f you do happen to get severance that is great. Over the past year, I know of exactly one person who did and one more that survived a PIP and is still there. For dozens of others I know, this was not the case and they were all shafted on the way out. Those commenting on what BNY is doing as standard practice are not fear mongering. That is really what they are doing as crazy as that may seem. I sincerely hope you do get severance. I didn’t see anyone respond to your FSA question. I did some research out of curiosity and did not find anything specific to BNY but seems to be fairly standard with a FSA you use it or lose it even if you are laid off. I would recommend confirming for yourself in some other manner but it looks to me like would be unwise to fund unless you are certain won’t lose. I suspect not many are well informed around FSA given use the HSA option which does travel with you when you leave. In your case I would say don’t fund unless confirm. If do get severance that will push you above income threshold, jump on spouses plan. If no severance, use marketplace or seek legal representation and make them pay you severance like I did.

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Post ID: @ck+1m4tnm7h3

@OP here

Please address the benefit related queries. I do understand that BNY is not a worker friendly place. But at the same time - I am tired of hearing this severance hear-says and fear mongering. My colleagues who were let go, very recently, they all got their 2 weeks/year. So, my on-field data says something else than the posts here.

Primarily severance is a nice going away money for me. I do want to have it, but it will put me in trouble with Obamacare premiums - so it is a double edged sword in my case

My query towards those who faced a similar situation, what is the way out?

@be - Thanks for your input. I am rethinking about FSA as I have dental implants scheduled next year and I cannot get the tax break (30% discount - 22% Fed, 7.5% SS and NY tax)

I was surprised that someone downvoted the query and this may also get downvoted - but please provide information than speculation

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Post ID: @by+1m4tnm7h3

@OP there are no more "normal layoffs", so you can forget the 2 weeks per year payout. Everyone let go will be due to forced ranking as underperformers, and low performance will not get you that 2 weeks/yr severance. More like 2 months total. HR has told managers to "differentiate" their staff. You're being compared against your co-workers, not against a fixed standard of performance. You can work 80 hours per week, complete stretch goals, actively work as a mentor, be a role model for others... but if you manager values you less than someone else, you can still be judged as an underperformer. Highly unethical but real. Good luck

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Post ID: @bf+1m4tnm7h3

Sorry this is happening to you and I feel bad for anyone who is still working at BNY. Truth is, good earnings vs bad earnings really doesn’t matter. They will purge either way. I didn’t do anything proactively with benefits. Jumped on spouses plan after the fact. The one difference here is the FSA. May not want to fund that but I’m not sure and maybe another poster can opine. I had a HSA, my entire balance is mine after leaving and I still use it. As for severance, the statement regarding 2 weeks per year might still be the policy but they will try whatever they can to not pay it. Typically they’ll make up something related to performance. This happened to me. I engaged an attorney and successfully negotiated the 2 weeks per year which they paid in a lump sum. Hope this helps. Wish you and everyone else still there the best.

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