Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

You Can Force RTO but You Can’t Force People to Want It

What does it say when you have to force 5-day RTO and then build a new HQ loaded with golf, tennis, pickleball, kayaking, basketball, bowling, shopping, a nail salon, daycare and a mental health clinic?

With all these distractions, how exactly is this supposed to improve productivity? 😂

I thought the whole argument for RTO was that people were “stealing time” while working from home… Apparently that was the problem. Now you can steal time on prem, surrounded by every possible distraction, while still getting credit for being physically at work.

Here’s the question I’d really love to see answered… If every Plano employee were given a completely free choice between working from home or coming into this new HQ, how many would actually choose the office?

I’d bet the overwhelming majority would still choose WFH and that is incredibly telling.

You can build the most elaborate office in the world. You can put a fu--ing country club inside it. You can force people to badge in five days a week. But you cannot force people to actually want to be there. People value flexibility more than corporate playgrounds.

Most people just want to go in when there is a reason to go in, get their sh-t done, and go home. They don’t want to spend their evenings hanging around the office because AT&T installed a bowling alley or a pickleball court.

This is the part leadership seems completely incapable of understanding. The problem isn’t that the office isn’t nice enough. The problem is that people don’t want to be required to be there five days a week anymore.

You can force attendance. You can build the amenities. You can spend whatever you want on the building but you can’t manufacture buy-in.

And forcing people into an office they don’t want to be in while spending a fortune trying to make that office more appealing is about as backwards as it gets.

We are still trying to solve a 2026 workforce problem with a 2006 answer.


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Post ID: @OP+1m3qdp1tj

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“ Some of us got healthcare packages 4 years ago! I consider that a package! Saves me about $1400 a month!“

They got you to leave by continuing to subsidize your pre-Medicare healthcare coverage, and by you in agreeing to retire.

No “package”.

Do not be swayed by Captain Package that is always on here longing for the “packages” of yesteryear. There are no packages.

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Post ID: @11h+1m3qdp1tj

@ad "We all know you will continue to stay."

Yep, 8 & Skate, it can wait. No more than 40 hours a week.

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Post ID: @qh+1m3qdp1tj

@m1 No, there isn't severance. No voluntary layoffs. That is what package means, genius. The only people getting paid to leave are the ones luck enough to be the bottom performers. Now take your childish semantic argument and stick it where the sun does not shine. I don't know how you imb3ciles manage to get a job here in the first place.

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Post ID: @mb+1m3qdp1tj

@m1 Some of us got healthcare packages 4 years ago! I consider that a package! Saves me about $1400 a month! There are people that would be willing to take that if it wasn't pulled,

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Post ID: @m8+1m3qdp1tj

“ …so he put a moratorium on manager packages…”

Can you stop with the “packages” , for the love of God?

There are no packages. There have been no management “packages” for over a decade.

I am guessing you have worked here 50 years based on your insistence on continuing to use that term.

If you get laid off, there is severance. That’s it. No other incentives. No packages.

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Post ID: @m1+1m3qdp1tj

@jy - WTF? Way too many beers!!

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Post ID: @kz+1m3qdp1tj

@ds

You want to change things? Try changing you. Stop whining about what you want and make it happen. No one forces you to come to work. YOU did that by not maintaining your skills to remain marketable. YOU took the AT&T money. YOU bought the fancy cars and houses and bling for that cow you live with. YOU bragged about how far you've gotten without a degree. YOU did these things and now you're getting upset that AT&T is asking you to put up or shut up?

Be a fcking sheep. Sheep produce wool or they get sla-ghtered. But, look at the bright side, at least they get to work from home!

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Post ID: @jy+1m3qdp1tj

@bh We would all take packages if they were offered, but Johnjohn is still buthurt over last years survey comments so he put a moratorium on manager packages and is forcing them to quit instead. Its like we put a spiteful 4-year-old in charge.

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Post ID: @jf+1m3qdp1tj

The point is the bald headed mo--n at the top knows it. He and his minions want us all to be miserable and leave on our own.. they are not trying to solve any problem. They want employees to be gone without severance

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Post ID: @hb+1m3qdp1tj

See you on the commute!

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Post ID: @ep+1m3qdp1tj

@bh - so the answer is just be sheep and not try to affect change? Got it.

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Post ID: @ds+1m3qdp1tj

@b4 you big dummy stupid head. My dad can beat your dad up.

Grow up. You work for AT&T not some mom and pop shop selling beaded necklaces.

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Post ID: @db+1m3qdp1tj

Yall are so stoopid. There is no RTO. There is only O. Office. Many worked remote because it was a cheap way for att to keep headcount while working out the final solution. now, the culling can commence. The Plano perks aren't for you. That's not your pickleball court or your nail salon or your bowling alley. Those are there to entice Infosys and Accenture to lease workspace from us. Of course stankey doesn't want you to play tennis. He wants some Indian kid to play tennis while their masters work them 12 hour days.

God, you people are donkeys. You think that complaining on surveys or moving to Dallas mean anything. If you live rto or if you hate it, you don't matter. In fact, the only people att respects are the ones who take packages and move on. The rest of you will continue to fight the quarterly gladiatorial games convinced that you are still there because you are a top performer.

Fkin donkeys. Every one of you.

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Post ID: @bh+1m3qdp1tj

Do the few of you telling people to get over it or saying “yet you stayed” realize you don’t get an award for being Papa Stankey’s special little boys?

The fact that you would mock people for wanting to work at a place with modern standards is embarrassing. You sound stupid.

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Post ID: @b4+1m3qdp1tj

Well said

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Post ID: @aq+1m3qdp1tj

@ah - you had a different view when they were forcing the jab jab on you.

No one forced you but cried and moaned about it every day and yet you stayed.

Many had empathy for you back then so be a better person now.

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Post ID: @an+1m3qdp1tj

Please tell us who is "forcing" you to RTO
You cry and moan every day
And yet you stay

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Post ID: @ah+1m3qdp1tj

Blah blah blah. Get over it or quit.

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Post ID: @ag+1m3qdp1tj

Don’t forget how they absolutely unironically thought the whole “sitting alone together” thing was a home run. Commute in, find a couch, put in earbuds, and Teams meet.

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Post ID: @ae+1m3qdp1tj

Knowing that people don’t want it makes it all the more enjoyable, honestly. I don’t want it either but I’m also not screaming into an Internet forum on the daily hoping someone with decision making powers will hear my protests and decide the whole company’s in office mandate will change because I’ve whined enough.

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Post ID: @ac+1m3qdp1tj

It’s interesting. The old El Segundo office was more the old style with cubes and a little more personal space. New place that opened last week is the id--tic “open plan” call center like environment where you can get a better idea of whether or not people are actually collaborating like this whole RTO BS is supposed to be about.

I almost never see a bunch of people huddled and collaborating like Stankey probably dreams about. Maybe socializing but 95% of the time people are at desks on their computer or on calls. People who have offices are by themselves doing what they do, not meeting with people.

Maybe it’s a little different in Dallas but the point is that they are wasting an insane amount of money to force people to do things in this building that they could do literally anywhere with the same result.

Is there value in having the ability to be in one place maybe 2-3 times a week especially so younger employees get some exposure? Sure I guess but this 5 day BS is beyond pointless.

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Post ID: @a7+1m3qdp1tj

many outside of the hubs still wfh most days without a virtual designation so rto is not a real policy

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Post ID: @a3+1m3qdp1tj

Retirement eligible and waiting to be shown the door. Glad my time is almost up.

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Post ID: @a1+1m3qdp1tj

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