Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

R2B managers lied about salary increase

I have officially moved on from Verizon Business.

Ultimately, the workload, expectations, and compensation were no longer sustainable. Managing an entire territory on a base salary of roughly $36,000, while absorbing the expenses that come with being in the field, is difficult to justify. R2B territory managers are among some of the lowest-paid territory managers when compared with similar positions across industries, and they are expected to do it without even a vehicle allowance.

But the compensation itself was only part of the problem. The bigger issue was what was promised.

During the transition, employees were told that the new job title and expanded responsibilities would come with an increase in base salary. People moved into these positions and accepted significantly greater responsibilities based, at least in part, on what they were told their compensation would become.

That promised base salary increase never came.

There is a major difference between accepting a demanding job knowing exactly what it pays and accepting expanded responsibilities based on a representation that your compensation would increase.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for the people still working in R2B. They deserve compensation and resources that reflect the job they are actually doing, and more importantly, they deserve what they were promised.


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I started with Verizon Jan 2023 as a Specialist, achieved winners circle year one, and was top 50 company wide in my roll and trending presidents cabinet year two. I was promoted to R2B 1 year 10 months into tenure even then so much of what I was promised was hogwash. Firstly they said I would keep my Presidents Cabinet placement after switching channels.. that was a lie. I lost out on a 15-20k trip to Paris for me and my partner because my managers wanted to sell me on the roll. My families in Europe so I would have extended trip and visited my 100 year old grandma. Then I took over a territory from a crooked, lying, slamming POS who was promoted to B2B (classic). My first 3-6 month were using my own charisma and willpower to win back, fix and sell to people that this POS had completely fleeced. I’m talking multiple accounts with $5-10,000 in overages, fraudulently added to account… you know… run of the mill verizon stuff. I wanted to quit but my direct boss was good and I really wanted to hit my 2026 vesting date. In 2025 I ended up only making $2-3k more for about 5x more work and 3x the commute then I did as a specialist even with selling 90-140 adds a month (zone 1 due to POS’ fraud lol). The store manager of my location was a mentally unstable micromanager that was throughly despised by staff that didn’t care about SMB sales and I had to fight through her leadership to hit quota (again classic VZ). I did end up liking my team and direct boss vs my previous retail manager.. then at end of 25 they severanced my boss. Then came the changed to R2B in 26… no more rCode and un achievable quotas. Then in just may they said we were getting base pay increases and a new roll that they did there best to sell us on. June came… no base pay increase, no business support team which did show up after my departure as the poorly named BET team (lol), move to salary aka there goes $5,000 in OT, they took my Spanish pay there’s goes another $3,500 a year. When I started in SMB I had a 29 ECode quota and about 50 adds from store. They took away MyBiz adds which in my case was usually 5-10 adds a month. Took away store partnership others than leads and me processing ISPUs for reps which is a terrible customer experience every time. My quota became SIXTY phones and BIs. During the R2B times I could sell phones, BI, tabs, watches, connected cars, cameras, OT and they would all count towards ECode. Under new system ONLY BI and Phones count… so you double my quota, removed a whole multiplier, and made attainment 150% harder. Any person not depressingly deep into the cool aid would see the writing on the wall. And to think they sent me a nice email about “congrats for your promotion”. I kid you not it was going to be an almost 30-40% pay cut for more work and for a company and CEO I had completely lost faith in and would almost certainly PIP me or if I achieved or over indexed like I had my fist 3 years severance me in 2 years. Just downright shameful… taking a highly motivated salesman of Winners Circle and Presidents Cabinet level and completely taking all the wind out my sales. I looked around and with my resume it took my 1.5 months to find a job in software sales with OTE near a quarter of million dollars in year two. I guess I should say thanks for su-king VZ

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Post ID: @29x+1m1esva57

@e3 literally could of a class action suite against them for the amount of dishonesty that was told to us in this transition.

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Post ID: @e9+1m1esva57

@dj again, here we have a plant for Verizon “you didn’t get it in writing” many pieces of management spoke about a base salary raise after the title change. great job Chris Flood. Oh, and you supposedly work for a company that honest we are all family. Again, yes, they lied to R2B and their really is enough people that can attest to it if a lawsuit came out.

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Post ID: @e3+1m1esva57

@OP I honestly don’t know this answer and it sounds horrible what that department is going through but you don’t get anything in writing before accepting a new job? You mentioned they lied about their promise but prior to accepting there was nothing outlined in writing? Just a word of mouth type of thing? It sounds like it was more of a “accept this position or be Riff’d” but I have never seen wages, vacation, pto, etc not listed in writing prior to accepting a position

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Post ID: @dj+1m1esva57

@be check this guy out “fine for a lot of people” meanwhile leaderboard shows “majority of people are not hitting commissions target” another bot sent by Verizon Business to defend illegal actions “like promises of a salary increase with the title change” what are the chances of a person going to The Layoff and defending a companies actions?

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Post ID: @c5+1m1esva57

@be looks like we have a paid member defending the horrendous action of management “lying about increasing the compensation with the title change and how bad the wages are” Even in a place where workers seek refuge Verizon sends a person to say that “R2B account managers are babies” touché Chris Flood and your goons!

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Post ID: @c4+1m1esva57

I’ve only heard people attribute this to CJ, were there other leaders that said one thing and then acted like they never said it?!

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Post ID: @c2+1m1esva57

Also i just did the math after 14 years my take home with the new structure is 26,000.00 after taxes. Completely unsustainable

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Post ID: @bz+1m1esva57

@be depends on your market. I’m SE market where the footprint is under developed and most of the duns are owned my sr managers or client exes. Def not making anywhere near what i used to unfortunately spending days prospecting just to get ghosted on a constant basis.

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Post ID: @bj+1m1esva57

Honestly the new role is fine and a lot of people are acting like babies

Yes you have to sell, yes you have to prospect, that also means you have a lot more flexibility with your day/schedule as long as you produce.

You can literally expense your mileage. You can get compensated for certain events with approval. Idk what costs anyone was absorbing

Idk I'm on one of the top teams in the country and a bunch of us are making money and pretty happy overall

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Post ID: @be+1m1esva57

5 years in role and the whole transition has been the most pain that’s caused some much turmoil. The compensation is literally a joke now. How can i hit 100% of quota and barely get a check? Enough is enough, they have thrown glitter on so many tu-ds.

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Post ID: @b5+1m1esva57

And, you just realized that the company's leaders have been lying all along!?!!? They have tarnished what the Credo means.

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