Are people that were remote before Covid being asked to return to office?
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ft wfh employees "days are numbered"... don't threaten me with a good time
Still wfh but no future is what we were told. Whole team has always been remote and most not near an office. But you better like your job because you aren’t getting another job/promotion whatever until you can come into an office. Or until they change their mind again.
The office is so sad and depressing now. Even if they had tried to improve things just a little it wouldn’t have been enough to reverse our opinions after the lockdown experience.
Yes, the communication went out yesterday. They're allowing a transition period.
Yes, what planet have you been living on the last few months??
Yes. SP is a tyrant and an enemy of all employees. Can't wait for him and CS to get to the he|| out of here.
Totally agree with @gdw+1loLpb72
This company wants prior full time remote workers to quit. Part of the reason is the location strategy. Future hires will be at hub locations. What does this say about a company that claims to care about the employees. Not much.
I live about 20 miles from the office.
Back when the telecommuter agreements were ended, I filled out some info to request an exception. My manager approved, his manager approved all the way up to Saul.
SVB was handing out exceptions like candy on Halloween. He was virtually on the edge of ditching it for Tech. But Scott Powell stepped in and threw a wrench in that.
Yes. I've been FT WFH for over 15 years and PT WFH (Hybrid) for a number of years before that.
So I've returned to an office building/location that I've never actually worked at. After 20 some years of not being in an office, I guess they feel that I'm in need of some babysitting. (Oops...I mean collaborating.)
Speaking of that, I go into the office, sit in a cube and don't speak to a soul. Heck, no one on my team is there, so why would I need to collaborate with some unknown person on some unknown team? What could we possibly collaborate about? I've reduced the time I spend working each day by the time it takes me to commute. So instead of getting 10 or 11 working hours out of me each day, they get 8. And if things don't get done, that's not my problem. I mean it's not like there's a solution or anything /s.
I'm about the only person on my team not asked to. But I love well over 40 miles from an office location for my area.
The clock is ticking for the in-office dinosaurs. They will not be able to compete and it's a matter of time. They will get wise or fail.
yes, 15 years remote.
Chill out. Go get a gelato.
I was answering a post, not making an excuse or being sly with unknowns on a message board.
If and when my time is up for my position to be 100% remote at WF, then so be it. But right now, today, that’s not the case.
Wasn't Sal behind all of the back-to-work initiative that happened before Covid? Everyone knows that "agile teams traditionally excel when their members are co-located". In fact, with agile you are supposed to get out of your office seats and do standup meetings -- hence the term Scrum. Everyone knows that.
@nrn+1loLpb72 "I have not been informed by HR or a Manager that my telecommuting agreement was “ripped up nor told I must come into an office. "
Ignorance is no excuse. This mantra is repeated over and over again. As previously pointed out communications have been sent out, many many times in Technology. Perhaps you are attempting to be sly and leave out accommodation information or the like, that's fine. For the vast majority of WFH employees the landscape is changing whether we like it or not unfortunately. Time is ticking for those titled Remote. Of course there will always be exceptions for niche folks, that has been the way at every employer.
@sxh+1loLpb72 unfortunately for you, you are now in a rough situation with several easy outs from the WF side to keep from providing you renumeration. 1. Having a defined office but not going in you will/are showing up on the reporting with zero badge swipes. Now it's on your manager to advocate for you and, I'm sure, repeatedly explain why you have 0 swipes which will only last so long. Meeting the RTO declaration is a performance metric for managers as well but the implications are unclear. 2. They can terminate you for cause for not showing up to work with or without your managers input. 3. They can provide you with the unassisted relocation mandate. 4. They can correct the glitch, flip you to remote at which time your telecommute agreement would be reenacted essentially but based on the past and current state of affairs I expect the culling of the remote employees to resume.
Yes, remote agreements no lo.ger exist unless you're 40 miles from an office or if you have an accommodation.
I'm 40+ miles remote from any office, and was hired full-time telecommuter, with a written and signed agreement.
Those agreements were terminated by WF as part of a "location strategy" a few years ago, but covid threw a huge monkey wrench into that whole initiative.
I have since been "assigned" (in writing) to an office that's about 70 miles away, but my manager has told me (not in writing) to keep working remote.
Total "don't ask, don't tell" scenario. Lots of people in this situation.
I'd accept a severance if they offered it. My job has deteriorated to a shadow of what it once was, and I don't check any of the DE&I boxes that they seem to want. I hope to be on the short list for a layoff.
"I have not been informed by HR or a Manager that my telecommuting agreement was “ripped up nor told I must come into an office."
That email went out company wide over a year ago. If you are more than 40 miles from an office, you don't have to go into one.
For now anyway.... prior to Covid, some people did get a "relocate or severance" notice... i'm expecting that once they get the people within 40 miles of office to sufficiently comply, they'll trot out that tactic again.
Everyone on my team who was hired remote (including myself) were laid off in November. I've heard of this happening lately in other groups as well. The people who kept their jobs are all in areas with offices.
Yes, only exception is for people who live beyond 40 miles from a hub. But their days are numbered from what I am hearing.
No.
Over 40+ miles from a location.
Over 10 years as remote.
Listed as Remote in Workday.
I have not been informed by HR or a Manager that my telecommuting agreement was “ripped up nor told I must come into an office.
Some are some aren't. Fortunately I haven't been yet, but there are more and more events happening where we are being asked to come in to the office for networking. I take that as the first step.
Yes. All remote work agreements were cancelled and that was communicated over a year ago.
No, but also not near a location.
Yep. 10 years remote and told to come back.
Yes. It's a push to motivate people to quit so the guys in the ivory tower in NYC, that are making millions every year, can save severance costs and "earn" themselves bigger bonuses.
Yes