I wish I had that option but I can't risk losing my job - I'm one of those who are tied to their position because they can't afford to lose their medical coverage even for a short time. I've tried finding remote jobs to apply for but lately, the pickings have been slim. I hate commuting and losing hours of my life and I hate sitting in a near-empty office for no good reason, but I have to do it. And while I might envy those of you who are refusing to comply, I'm also happy you're standing strong. The only way to slow down full RTO is to show just how little people want to be back. If I can't show it, I'm glad some can.
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Not all heros wear capes. I'm so glad you're out there fighting the good fight!!
I'm one of those people refusing to RTO. Been with the company less than a year. My manager has been asking me about it weekly for a couple of months. I've told him I'm not going in. Period. He explained the reporting looks at attendance averaged over a month and you have to hit 3 days average per week. So they are looking at reporting and it does matter. We're playing chicken at this point. What he doesn't understand is that I'm here for cash flow for investing and that I've saved and invested enough over my prior 20 year career to not need the job. I just enjoy investing - it's my hobby. So I'm hanging in there to prove a point for everyone else who wants to remain WFH. If I'm eventually fired, I'll report back, but for now I'm fighting the good fight.
It's to bad that NOTHING is "tied" to the executive's performance. No matter how sluggish growth is, no matter what the earnings are, no matter what the progress is made on compliance issues, they'll still get paid millions with millions more in bonus. I don't begrudge people at the top for making the big bucks, many of them earned it, what annoys me is the 'good for me, but not for thee' BS. IF they are judged at all, and that's a very big if, it'll be on performance, not attendance. Same for employees in the "cool kid" groups, like parts of tech. But the pleebs that are in the "wrong" business groups? Ok THEY get judged on it. That NYC clown show BS can F off.
There is a misconception that states with Right-To-Work (RTW) laws somehow make it easier for employers to fire employees. Here is the truth on the RTW law. RTW simply gives workers the freedom to choose whether or not to join a labor union in the workplace. The law makes it optional for employees in unionized workplaces to pay for union dues or other membership fees required for union representation, whether they are in the union or not. Right-to-work is also known as workplace freedom or workplace choice. While the name of the law implies that it provides freedom to workers, critics argue that it weakens unions and empowers corporations instead:
- A RTW law gives workers the choice of whether or not to join a union.
- States without RTW laws often require employees to pay union dues and fees as a term for employment
- Proponents of RTW laws maintain that workers shouldn't be obliged to join a union.
- Critics also argue that RTW laws weaken union power and benefit corporations.
- Research has shown that states with RTW laws see higher employment bug lower wages for workers (But higher executive pay). Studies also point to lower unionization rates.
Sorry but at least North Carolina is a "Right to Work" state where you can be fired for any reason whatsoever. They do not need a reason. Unless you can prove some type of diversity violation you are gone.
Here’s the thing…they can’t just cold fire you for RTO non-compliance. Especially when there is no published policy or protocol. So RTO 1 day a week to stay off reports and wait until your manager brings it up. The first warning is verbal, the second, third, and final are written, at least for everything else. Again there is no published policy on RTO non compliance, and Poppa Fargo would risk litigation for firing when there isn’t. So yeah, stay home and wait until your manager mentions it.
OP, do the next best thing. Quiet quit. You might have to RTO but show them you were more productive at home.
man up losers
@mos, Congratulations! So happy for you. :-)
Don’t be envious. Join us….
@fvv+1kwl6yhh Because you have an intelligent manager who knows how to keep good people.
This board is the only place I have heard anything about RTO. I go into the office for larger group meetings, but beyond that my manager and I have been operating under a "don't ask don't tell" policy. I never have and never will go in 3 days a week.
I know mgmt wants us all back in the office. My mgr goes in--but he drives to his assigned location and his parking is free....so, mgr hasn't forced anyone on my team yet.
My mgr is an a$$ so we'll see how he bullies us around in 2023
We were told that attendance was going to be tied to performance reviews this year.
The easiest thing for you is to try not to think about others. You're just driving yourself crazy. This also includes compensation, promotions, etc
I'm going to be a good little worker for a little while to see how RTO compliance is going.
If it remains dismal, back home full time I go, regardless of supposed consequences.
Commuting is a significant time sink, risk (most accidents happen during rush hour), expense, stress, etc for literally nothing positive in return - only negative.
I highly doubt they will fire anyone who is performing well for not going into an office. The cost to fire and rehire is significant. Now, I could absolutely see them withholding bonus or merit increases, but firing costs them too much. And we all know they will only do what benefits them.
After I was laid off from Wells Fargo I received many months of severance pay. Near the end of the severance pay period I applied for new jobs. Soon acquired a new permanent exempt employee job, at a much higher salary, and totally remote work. Good benefits. Well maybe Wells Fargo had some better benefits, but the new job is WAY less stressful and pays very much more. Liking it. So much relief and much happier now actually.