Thread regarding NCR Corp. layoffs

@166 tell that to the (dirty dozen), they will try to manipulate and contradict your opinion. trying to do everything in their power to make this picture look incorrect

@166 this is great , now the truth is finally coming out. that is exactly correct... we finally have smart people starting to input their true opinions.. great post 166!!!!!!!!! very true... lets see if the leaders start to show up

@164 this is a great post , the best on this thread. you are correct , i mean it deep down from my heart. very true

@151 Exactly. The insult is not just the $20 or $30 “merit” increase. It is the hypocrisy around it. NCR Atleos keeps talking about “Best Place to Work” awards and showing off a "platinum building" that is being rented, while employees are expected to survive on salaries from 12 years ago.

You cannot market Serbia as a major European hub, demand office presence, loyalty, overtime, knowledge transfer and “ownership,” then reward people with lunch money. The older employees are now inconvenient because they know too much, cost more, and remember every broken promise.

The strategy looks obvious: squeeze Serbia until skilled people leave on their own, avoid proper severance where possible, replace experience with cheaper labor, then blame “market conditions” when quality collapses. That is not leadership. That is managed decline dressed up with awards, rented buildings and corporate slogans.

The funniest part is watching a few likely younger company supporters defend a multinational corporation like it’s a wounded family member. Nobody is asking NCR to become a charity. People are asking why a “global leader” needs to compete with grocery stores and fast-food kiosks on salary, while expecting top tier workforce and corporate loyalty in return. If the best defense is “leave if you don’t like it,”... and that is exactly why almost everyone skilled actually left

So the real question now is , how are they going to get rid of all those employees who have been there for over a decade... how are they going to gather all that money to pay for everyone's severance pay when they try to get rid of them? or will they let Brinks handle that part. or maybe they will stay in Serbia and operate for the next 50 years....and continue paying their employees 800 $ a month around 650 euros ...What will happen to all these employees they were advertising the largest and biggest campus in europe .. will they continue hiring another 2 K employees as they forecast?

Pretty amazing all those former NCR USA jobs with some career path potential ended up in Serbia for 800 euros a month.

They wildly underpaid replacements overseas. Whole thing su-ks for everyone.

@12j It is not comparable in that way.

NCR is mostly employing less skilled workforce for entry level roles, on the contrary those listed companies nearby are employing high end egnineers for far more advanced roles.

Like you are comparing Walmart which is empolying mostly cashiers and physical labour workforce with Mayo Clinic employing various high end medical roles, then getting conclusion that Mayo is paying better ...

If it is for some comfort there companies nearby which are paying even less for similar roles like in majority of NCR , like Geodis ( for example ) ... and also NCR does have much better payed roles in Belgrade, but they are minority comparing to already mentioned ...

oh this is great news.. so NCR in Belgrade is one of the lowest paying foreign companies for employees ...is that correct to say?

@128 They pay significantly more.

Vast majority of NCR workforce in Belgrade is tied to entry level roles, such as SD/HD agent L1/2/3/ ... Call-1, FSC, various business analysts and other roles with diferent names but similar in nature. Those roles are employing agents with foreign language knowledge (mostly english, but some other languages as well german, italian, dutch ... ) and basic computer usage literacy such as know how to browse, copy/paste, write some documents, send e-mails ... NCR provide them upom employment up to one or two weeks of training and then maybe one month of shadowing, after which "the skill" is born ...

Contrary to them Microsoft has one of serious developement centers which exist here much longer then NCR, empploying best of the best from local technical faculties.

Databricks has also deveopement center also employing only top engineers.

Difference ins salary, well most (but not all) of NCR workforce is payed around 800usd/eur / ... after taxation and most of other companies start at around 3k euros and can pay up to 6-7 and even more then 10k for advanced roles per month after tax ...

I wonder how much those companies that are right next to NCR as someone said actually pay significantly more? Why would they pay significantly more? Isn't NCR the world famous leader of all companies in Belgrade? Those companies next door cant be paying more that NCR ? that wouldn't be fair? Someone mentioned 800 euros? I think the original person was referring to 800 dollars not euros .. IS it true that NCR in Belgrade has 90 percept of people in the company who don't even make 1500 dollars a month? no proof but listening to all this that is what it sounds like... how much are these next door companies significantly paying more? Do we have their contrast in hand to compare?

@122 Well that might be very original kind of manager, listing all the companies near NCR office which are giving much better work conditions and salaries.

@120 we definitely have one of the managers in this room protecting , giving it all their best to make sure that someone is saying something that's not true... the real warriors are here .. great job , we kneel to you . Thank you so much for providing all those companies for all our viewers

@11y If you were aware of all previously listed, why then were you writing all those nonsense?

Also if you think you deserve more then 800e per mont, and merit increae of ~20-30e is to small, you have a plenty of oportunity to prove you are right.

In a 2 miles radius of NCR's Belgrade office you have offices of Microsoft, Oracle, Databricks, AMD, Nutanix, Cisco, Huawei, ZTE, Bluecat ... All of them pay significantly more, so you can allways try and test the hypothesis ...

@11x Thank you for explaining all of this ... we were all so unaware.. you must be one of the managers there at the Serbia location considering you know everything... so detailed and thorough.. you are exactly what they want there. You should all become attorneys with how smart everyone is ... who says we work there ?

@114 What are you talking about?

Proof that NCR is paying low wages, and as an example 800e tax free per month is evidence. By which law in Serbia are they obligated to pay more? Serbia has defined minimal wage and that is somewhat above 500e per month. So NCR is not breaking any law there, and I do not see what this evidence might point to?

Skilled workforce, for 800e? Which skills do they have, apart from understanding at least one foreign language and basic computer literacy? Most of roles being payed ~800e per month are based on a week long training. That is far from being any kind of skilled workforce.

NCR as a leader and paying low? Well for example Nutanix is not a leader in virtualization and cloud engineering (VMware by Broadcom still is) , but they do pay well. Their office is on walking distance from yours so why do you not try to get there? Also they do require some serious skill to get in ...

Everybody on smoking break during the day. NCR building is occupied by at least three major companies, Voyix, Atleos and Candescent. That is around 4500 employees. Knowing there are at least three shifts, and some of workers are on vacation, sick leave, WFH, that still means during the day there is like at least few hundreds of employees in front of the building, smoking and drinking coffee by what we have heard from you...

Also check in in the morning and check out in evening. Well that is kind of impossible. There is no checking in or out. NCR building has barriers with ID card readers which register every in/out event. So if they want to go on smoking break, they will need to pass that barrier and check which will be recorded. Any manager can request the report for certain card (employee) and get how many hours each day was that employee in the building/out of the building with exact timestamps ...

@11c Well he-l man good luck!

@11b why yes of course in Argentina

@118 Well congratulations, looking for your next position yet?

@119 Really now please share and enlighten this entire thread if you dare.

@117 just go to the kitchen.. you'll have plenty of proof there its all around you .. you jsut need to look in the right places

yes I go to the office so I can have meetings with clients who live on the other side of the world... so I sit in the office in Serbia... looking out the window how everyone goes outside to smoke every 5 minutes and checks in in the mornings and comes back in the afternoon to check back out .. while local leadership (the significant dozen) cover their buddies spending no time in the office at all ...

@115 Why would I go to the kitchen, are you working there. Oh, ALOHA based employment.

@114 WOW, WOW, WOW, WOW do you really think spreading false accusations, (since no proof has been provided asked of the original poster). So, it's in the HR office. File that lawsuit go for discovery, then maybe you'll have leg to stand on now. Right now, you don't. Serbia made its own bed.

ma ljudi sta ste se uzbudili NCR se zatvara i seli u Indiju , hahaha pratite infromacije u kuhinjama

WOW WOW WOW!!!!!!!!! looks like we have two sides here jabbing away .... sure there is proof, its upstairs in the HR and their attorney offices... they have all the proof required.. do you really think someone is going to share proof on an online internet platform? What there is proof of is the ridiculously low cheap work force in Serbia, and someone thinking that $ 20 bucks a month extra is enough to cover the living costs of one person not to mention a whole family with kids… This is not a leading global company in anything… it’s a typical outsourced call center that pays less than required skilled jobs… The company would rather be paying even less all their employees in outscored countries… Sure there is proof of everything… but its confidential … hidden in court rooms and lawyers offices , as is with every corporation….. The real proof are the persons who are actually fighting for their rights for some reason or another… and then for someone to say that there is no public available evidence… of course there isn’t because in Serbia they don’t have public availability to everyone… its all speculation…. As far as people learning life lessons and or someone stating incorrect information.. wake up it’s the internet.. people can post whatever the F they want …. Some are living it , some haven’t experienced it … some will never understand…and yes local leadership is feeding bull sh-t to the US so they could save their positions… its normal , that’s how it works in every company…Looks like some of them are even on this portal… (the local boys) you know who you are … the ones who are important…. fighting internet wars back and forth

@s2 Wow long winded. Do you have proof otherwise. if so please share.

@sb Local leadership in Serbia never really had any major role in the company other than local management — or, to put it more precisely, following instructions from upper management and passing them on to local employees.

They have no real control over budgets or compensation. In many cases, they cannot even approve something as basic as a business mobile phone or a company vehicle for themselves.

Compared to locally owned Serbian IT companies, the difference is obvious. Management there usually gets a company car in the €30–50k range (mostly through leasing), a premium business phone, and a laptop. In Serbian NCR, they mostly get bananas.

Long story short, blaming local management for everything only shows that you do not really understand how this company operates.

And if you are complaining about an €800 paycheck, maybe it would be smarter to invest time in improving useful skills for the near future instead of writing nonsense on the web.

Funny how the anonymous company minions appear the moment employees mention wages, unions, or basic respect.

Maybe another Food Day will fix morale, productivity, retention, and bills. Who needs fair pay when you have snacks and fake engagement?

Local leadership looks completely lost: too inexperienced, too detached, living in la-la land, and apparently feeding HQ some fairy tale where everyone is happy and grateful.

Then the keyboard loyalists show up to lecture workers about gratitude and unions. Very brave. Very useful. Very spineless.

@qw Hello Sir/ Madam , in the US we have public records of all lawsuits being field against a company, not sure if it works like that in any other country. either way , even if there are any or aren't any all corporations at some point have lawsuits against them , whether its from employs, companies , governments and so on , its just a norm , at some point , not saying any of this is true... I'm sure no one is going to post the exact lawsuits or prove them on this site ... this is an internet free to say site ... so people might be just posting whatever they want... in the US you can sue someone if they curs at you ... things have changed .. When people post these things on the internet there will never be proof of anything... that is why the internet ruined the whole world as far as posts are concerned... even if there are lawsuits , the company is not going to disclose that information... also every company has layoffs an merits for all employes that they deicide so if people want to write stupid things they can do so online.. there will never be proof .. unless someone wants to post all the information and provide names of the concerned.. you seem to be very confimdent that what that person posted is incorrect? do you have proof that they are incorrect?

@a2 Please provide proof of your allegations.

Lawsuits Against NCR in Serbia
There is no publicly available evidence in the provided sources of specific lawsuits currently being filed against NCR Corporation in Serbia. The only relevant information comes from an anonymous social media post criticizing NCR’s pay practices in Belgrade, where employees allege that merit increases of around $20–$30 per month are insufficient to meet living costs, and that management has allegedly fired union leaders to consolidate control TheLayoff.com. The post calls for prosecution, but it is a public opinion statement, not a formal legal proceeding.

Now the cheaper labour in Serbia is complaining that NCR companies are paying bad wages, welcome to the world of NCR, employees globally are treated bad, NCR is nothing more than a global company that doesn’t care one bit about employees, they give and pay the absolute minimum needed, nothing more, even taking away benefits that are really mediocre to begin with. The power of numbers used to work for the employees, now it’s used to make upper management rich.

Well, most of your fellow countrymen are getting 0% on average, so 2.7% is significantly higher.

I guess you will continue on your path of growth; maybe along the way you will discover some truths — such as the fact that corporations and businesses are built to make money, not to give it away. And, most importantly, that you need to find your place in all of that.

Currently, from a financial perspective, some local fast-food kiosk or stores like Lidl or Maxi would unfortunately be a better option.

@c6 not sure who is writing this if its someone from the US or someone from Serbia, but basically we guess then its ok then to give someone a 2.7 percent raise on 800 dollar a month salary.. not sure how someone can live on that , but we guess its possible.. also not sure what youngsters you are referring to ? is everyone a youngster who works in the company? Just not sure where this is going, but prices in Serbia especially in Belgrade are more expensive that in the US right now , cost of living, food , clothing and so on .. So basically the message is if you don't like it leave on your own right? It seems that we have some leadership typing here saying that we don't need to complain? Its ok everyone can express their opinion , nothing wrong in that.. it is what it is

@OP The annual inflation rate in Serbia, measured by the Consumer Price Index (CPI), is officially 2.7%. They have covered the inflation, and that is all based on governments official data.

While this data is completely unreal, that is not by any means NCR's issue.

Also, it is not quite true that all people are doing now is coming into the office and socializing all day, most of them still have to work, and also saying such things is quite opposite of the employees interest. Guess you can imagine how could some Brinks mgmt, with no attachement to labour force what so ever, react on such statements.

Also maximum of expectations of labour unions in Serbia is to get you cheaper pork halfs, NCR's could not be any different. I guess this is the situation where local youngesters thinking that in Serbian "state of law" good attourney means something and they can influence foreign corporation's business are gaining some life lessons ...

Be thankful you received any merit increase. Workers in the US have had multiple years getting a 0 pay increase due to “economic headwinds”

Atleos is also being sold to Brinks so I would expect a massive winding down of Serbia operations as Brinks consolidates its new purchase.

NCR and the new companies have been treating employees like po-p for 20 years, however; recently the worst ever. I am not surprised that the outsourced labour in Serbia is getting sc--wed, that’s NCR, Expect nothing and even less from them in the future, that way you won’t be disappointed.

The company is running illegal actions on a daily basis in Belgrade , lying to US leadership so top players can keep their positions . There are several lawsuits taking place against the company in Serbia and they are trying to fire people on a daily basis. The HR manager who is fairly new is running around the office taking people into rooms and asking them to sign documents or else. There is a strong force of labor unions trying to form on all sides of the company to protect the employees , but the company is using illegal tactics how to stop that and lying to employees