Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Hi Performer Vs Su-ky Ineffective Mgr

the most overlooked dynamics in a toxic workplace is the clash between a high performer and a su-ky mgr…

on paper, it doesnt make sense. Here u have someone who is proactive… engaged, and solution-oriented reporting to someone who should want exactly that. But the tension isn’t really about intent… it’s about how they fu--ing operate.

Hi performers focus on outcomes. they question inefficiencies and suggest improvments…. Su-ky ineffective managers, on the other hand focus on control. they avoid risk, interpret questions as pushback, and spend way too much energy covering for their own shortcomings.

so when a high performer tries to make things better, the manager doesn’t hear the idea. they hear that they’re doing something wrong…that’s where the toxic cycle begins. instead of engaging with the idea or the solution their focus shifts to the person presenting it.

from there, it usually goes one of two ways. the high performer keeps pushing, keeps offering ideas, and gets labeled as difficult. Or they go silent, stop questioning, stop contributing beyond what’s asked, and get labeled as disengaged and utter sh-t.

from the outside, both look like problems. but they’re not. they’re what happens when confidence meets insecurity.

if you’re a high performer at WFB dealing with this, the right environment won’t make you feel like you need to shrink just to survive or be effective…


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Post ID: @OP+1kq3mkmgy

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Your post is actually why I got out of that dump last year after over a decade. They hired an absolutely clueless mo--n to be my boss and I finally had enough. I found a role at a different company reporting to a manager who has been in the trenches longer than me and really knows their stuff. At this point I’m too old to work for clueless corporate su-k ups. I like those types to be at least 2 up from me so my direct manager can mitigate the pain.

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Post ID: @nj+1kq3mkmgy

Is this play about Consumer Technology?

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Post ID: @kj+1kq3mkmgy

Nice job stealing from social media and reposting here, OP.

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Post ID: @hw+1kq3mkmgy

If you are a high performer and your manager is below average, there is always going to be some insecurity. He is going to want to surround himself with below average performers that look like himself. It’s best to move to a high caliber team. Run run run.

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Post ID: @h0+1kq3mkmgy

it's all about them, them, them.

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Post ID: @dr+1kq3mkmgy

LinkedIn slop

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Post ID: @d3+1kq3mkmgy

Another fragile self-styled "hi performer" (lol) on thelayoff...

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Post ID: @cz+1kq3mkmgy

This is a pattern, not an exception.
If organizations are serious about retaining high performers, this needs to be explicitly measured in the global survey—psychological safety, openness to challenge, and whether leaders reward outcomes or conformity.
What isn’t measured here will continue to quietly erode performance.

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Post ID: @cy+1kq3mkmgy

Spot on!!

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Post ID: @cv+1kq3mkmgy

TLDR?

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Post ID: @ct+1kq3mkmgy

You need to get over yourself.

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Post ID: @cp+1kq3mkmgy

Fortunately our manager was someone who listened, he was proactive and knowledgeable. However I've had manager in the past who were what is described. It seemed like they were always afraid of those that were above them. Like if they were going to show up, they would visit our desks, tell us to clean up our areas and remind us that we needed to behave as if we were preschoolers and not full grown adults. That was always strange to me.

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Post ID: @ac+1kq3mkmgy

Very accurate. Especially since we keep promoting insecure people to lead positions. Insecure leaders are that way because they are yes men, if you only say yes to the managers, you’re never going to truly understand what you are capable of and when they are challenged, they don’t know what to do and it feels threatening to them.

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Post ID: @ab+1kq3mkmgy

I feel this OP. You are spot on.

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Post ID: @a9+1kq3mkmgy

@op I wonder why isn’t HR stepping in? These toxic management patterns seem to be everywhere lately.

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