I’m doing the “spray and pray” method of looking for an internal role as one last attempt before I look outside the bank. Can recruiters see all my applications? Does it make a difference if they see I applied for 10 different jobs?
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Yes. If you apply for multiple roles with any employer's recruiting platform everyone in the company will see your applications for every role you applied for. Therefore, apply for a handful of related roles at a time. Otherwise, companies will reject all applications because they think you're spamming them and you're not cariing if the job is a match. It stinks because I've done that and have seen others do that and it will backfire on you.
poster from below. @ybd+1kYPhtFx,
To clarify. I didn't apply to every Senior Tech Bus Sys Analyst I saw. I only applied to the ones where the descriptions matched what I thought I could do. The problem is, most descriptions are very vague. General sense of "data analysis" or problem solving. If it said anything about specific programs I would have to know or requirements I didn't meet. I wouldn't apply for that position. Again, most of the job descriptions are so vague (or they were then) I thought I at least had a shot at being able to do to the job.
Just say “Spray and Pray” out loud and let it sink in. Targeting your applications are best. If you apply to a million jobs you are not qualified for but “believe you can learn” I can guarantee you there are at least 3-5 who applied who have done similar work and you will have zero shot at the role ever getting to a phone call. If you are qualified but your resume doesn’t clearly state it that’s also on the applicant.
Jeez, the advice here is terrible. It only looks bad if you are applying to “every job under the sun” vs jobs you are truly interested in and qualified for. Ignore recruiter advice on resume length. That isn’t the point. The point of your resume is to get to the point. Why should a recruiter or manager talk to you at all? People fear having multiple versions of their resume. If you don’t tailor your resume to the job you’re applying to you’re doing yourself a disservice. Your resume is a we-pon to get on the phone with someone who can give you a chance to move to a next step through a conversation, but what you leave in it must also be true. Most people are terrible at writing their resumes. Focus on what the Job states. If you lie consequences could be grave. All I’m going to say.
Been referred to as serial applicants. They will reach out to your manager and tell them. While not blacklisted they will remember you and start filtering you out.
@fpg+1kYPhtFx only the ones open. The intent was so managers would know if people might have other offers coming in and might lose a high demand candidate. The era of “spray and pray” has made that somewhat useless but does provide a different kind of insight.
As the HM below mentioned, if you’re a good fit for the role they have and your resume tells that story, most managers won’t be bothered by the application volume. You have to cast a wide net to move around. If you’re applying to roles not remotely related at volume, that’s another story.
Is the turnoff applications you have open at the same time or number of positions you have applied to since workday opened?
What number of applications would be considered excessive? 100 was mentioned earlier but what about 10 or 15?
No wonder it takes forever to hear something back when I apply for a position. I guess it takes weeks and weeks to sort through all of the spray and pray applications.
Put that effort into applications OUTSIDE the company.
They hold it against you. Do not apply for a ton of jobs.
Yep.
I applied for over 100 jobs in Workday. It's so easy, I just based it off of my former title "tech bus systems analyst". So I applied for the "senior" TBSA that popped up in my area. I had probably 5 interviews. I did end up getting a new job after a year. But it was in a department where I knew someone, and was more up my alley than the random ones I was applying for. If Wells had a better career path setup, I wouldn't have applied for all those other ones. There was literally no where else to go in my department, unless someone retired. And I was ready to move on. I wasn't learning anything anymore.
I like my new gig a lot though. I'm glad I wasn't blacklisted.
Yes and they will see you are wasting their time because yoi clearly do not care about the job(s). You are desperate and they see that.
Hiring manager here - I will overlook the spray and pray IF the applicant tailored the resume to my role.
If it’s a 4+ page resume that goes back 30 years and has a kitchen sink’s worth of “experience” it goes straight to the no pile.
Yes and if you shot g-n resumes randomly, you will get blacklisted.
Yes
Recruiters and hiring managers, yes. Hiring managers tend to ignore the people who have a “100” next to their name.