Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Should I have stayed?

I quit in October after finally finding a new job. It pays better but I’m wondering if I should have forgiven my boss for screwing me with an “inconsistently meets” and then admitting she had no choice per HER boss. Should I have stayed and worked harder for a big raise and bonus this year? I was at the top of my game according to my colleagues and stakeholders when I said “F*** YOU! and bailed after 20 years taking their paltry 1.5% raises and BS excuses.

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Post ID: @OP+1kCvrwuu

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20 years. Yes, right move to leave. No, wrong move to stay. You are the person they do not want to pay 20 years severance, while trying to force you out through your rating. And it worked

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Post ID: @1jmu+1kCvrwuu

If you don’t at least get meets at mid year you gotta bounce. You don’t have to leave the firm. You just have to leave that team/mgr. reason being that they have to stack rank us. You can be the top person on a bad team or a bad person on a top team all while being the exact same person. Because it’s all relative to peers on team. So go find one that you can be top on, before the inconsistent meets sticks at year end

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Post ID: @1adv+1kCvrwuu

Consider this a PSA for all highly tenured employees (15+ years). The “inconsistently meets” fate awaits you. They do not want to pay top shelf severance and you’re lined up for it. They will come up with creative ways to push you out.

They are tired of the organizational inertia and pushback on any new idea - not commenting on if those ideas are good. They want people who will STFU about RTO and do what they’re told. Tenured people are not those.

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Post ID: @1mzh+1kCvrwuu

Don't troll just gtfo.

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Post ID: @wxm+1kCvrwuu

Never look back. Been Married three times and have transferred jobs every 5 years. Always trading up. :o)

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Post ID: @zrg+1kCvrwuu

I never believe what they say. I had a great manager that i thought was being honest. They are not. That is why they are in management. They know how to make you trust them but really you should never trust them. They want to keep their job too. More for them less for you.

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Post ID: @drm+1kCvrwuu

This seems fake, but if it’s real/sincere why would you feel bad about taking a job with more pay? I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone here holding a grudge because one of their employees left to advance their career. It’s what they’d probably do as well. Thinking you owe them anything (or that they owe you anything) is making it personal when it’s all business, at the end of the day.

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Post ID: @obo+1kCvrwuu

Clearly, clown post.

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Post ID: @uce+1kCvrwuu

It sounds like a very toxic management trend. Maybe should have stayed out of principle but that would be hard after 20 years to be treated like that.
The larger picture is that if this is a frequent issue as described below it should be looked at more closely in a company plagued with hiring and manager scapegoating issues.
Why would an upper manager make a call in a rating when the manager is the one working closest to you. Was there an issue that was reported where it would make the upper manager’s life easier if you were gone, did you have a history of inconsistently meets or was this the first one. Those are the kinds of questions that I’m starting to ask at this point.
There should be avenues employees can take if they have a legitimate issue and people on here seem to not have any trust in Human Resources. 20 years is a long time and it makes me wonder about the topic of constructive discharge which I have seen brought up. If wells wants to clean up its image, these trends need to be looked at more closely.

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Post ID: @dsi+1kCvrwuu

Don't have regrets and don't second guess yourself. Look forward. Stagecoach was dismantled years ago.

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Post ID: @ouq+1kCvrwuu

@add. It’s a free country. Mind ya biznis.

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Post ID: @erf+1kCvrwuu

I was not calibrated down by comparison to my peers. I’m SURE that’s what HR told them to say. I was told that, because I was vocal about how the team managers basically blamed individuals for defects after an entire TEAM of people signed off on the changes, I needed to be “dealt with.” If I had not challenged the status quo, I would have flown under the radar and collected my meets.
They didn’t like being criticized for their lack of decision making ability and they passed the buck downward.

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Post ID: @lox+1kCvrwuu

Op,
Why are you even posting? You were at the top of your game, tired of the "paltry raises and BS excuses", and left.
You already answered your own question. What more do you want from this board?

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Post ID: @dde+1kCvrwuu

Your manager recommended you for a meets and were calibrated down vs your peers or she gave it and blamed her manager which is common. Either way it sounds like you earned the rating, so please be honest with yourself why that might be the case.

Now let’s get to the reason why you are posting here. 20 years is a long time but you make better money now. You are not an anomaly as this BS is happening to many people.

Move on with your life. You have nothing to prove to people who are not thinking about you.

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Post ID: @trr+1kCvrwuu

No you should not have stayed. I was in your position a few years ago. I got an inconsistent rating. My boss said they didn't agree but the decision came from several levels above and there's nothing that could be done. My boss said their mission was to make sure I improved my rating for the next year. I busted my tail working 12+ hour days since we had several people leave. A year goes by and I get another inconsistent rating. My boss said they recommended me for whatever the rating above meets is. They told me that they were told by their boss that once you get an inconsistent rating, it's really hard to shake it unless you move to a new job. I got no raise and a meager bonus. I immediately started looking for a new job. Took a few months but I found something in a different area. Pay was a slight bump. Bonus % is better. Never regretted the move for a millisecond.

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