I see a lot of people that are still remote… has anyone recently successfully negotiated to be remote? Will those that are remote be eventually asked to go back to the office?
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@5bf that might be the requirement, but that’s not the norm looking at the floors throughout the day. I’m typically in 4 days a week but usually 5 and make a point to go to each floor to try and collaborate but at the very least to get exercise.
Denver is very empty on 8th floor (NCC) compared to before the Denver closure announcement or even one year ago.
Of any sites that people go in for maybe two hours a day Denver is one of them because, well why bother going more hours a day when each month there is less and less people.
@dt NCC reps in Denver have to go in 3 days a week!
lmao @OP if it were possible we could have saved hundreds of jobs in Denver first, rather than lose so many talented folks over the next 8 months.
I think many of them would take a pay cut and/or 5% VC cut to stay with TIAA if offered to be fully remote. I’m definitely one of them that would.
Ok… Well… Maybe not hundreds… but definitely a lot of experience that you can’t replace with fresh young talent in Frisco, who are choosing other companies over TIAA.
@b7 it wasn’t fun but I had no other options. I was fortunate enough to be making okay’ish money so even after spending on average $3500/mo it was better than not spending the money, getting written up and subsequently fired, and then not having ANY income. Unfortunately, the closest hub was Frisco and they need EVERY warm body they can get to fulfill their associate count for the State of Texas grant money.
@bc are you speaking of disability accommodations or some other? Just wondering how others have seen disabilities handled recently.
@dt @bg here. Yeah I’m in Denver too. Well rather quite far outside of Denver. I’m not even in the “metro district”. People not from here think they can go to the Rockies from the airport in no time flat not realizing until getting out of the terminal exactly how far the mountains are. The city here is huge compared to Charlotte and other cities/offices.
Definitely depends on area within TIAA. My option was move to Frisco (with this putridly small offer) or severance… no remote unless if extended past 7/1 but likely only for a 6 month maximum extension - if offered - based on what other folks received or anticipated being offered. Which if offered I will politely and emphatically decline.
@bg Very interesting....I know two people in Denver that will not lose their jobs and works fully remotely because they live over 60 miles away...also if you work in the NCC...reps are only required to go in 1 day a week. Clearly policies/procedures are not the same for all...TIAA has always had different requirements for different areas of the company...
Third world problems. Be thankful you have a job to go to right now. Crazy times.
@bc I live over 60 miles away. Still have to go in 3 days a week. Couldn’t get remote approved. But I guess this worker bee is too low on the totem pole. It’s ok though I’ll take my talents elsewhere and they can have fun trying to replace 1/4 of what I know.
As of July the remote policy changed...you are only allowed to work remote if you live 50 or 60 mile away..my director worked fully remote for years and received the memo to come in 3 days...in addition, HR and the TPTB decided they would not longer approve job accommodations...even with a doctor completing the form...they want you to leave...the most exception they will approve is 30 days and you still have to jump through bs to obtain that approval.
@aw that's crazy and you were even crazier to do it in the first place.
@b0 T, The Board, and the ELC didn't get the memo that the world of work as we knew it post COVID changed for the greater good and permanently going forward with remote work but their reactionary forced back of the office staff will cost the company money, experience, and employee happiness and eventually this will the undoing of "T"IAA as we know it.
@OP you serious? Negotiate? Barely anything here can be negotiated anymore. T doesn’t care. Even SD had to relocate to a hub. What makes you think you don’t have to be in the office. A lot of people that remote are the 24/7 + weekend IT folks.
I mean they offered severance, relocation, and Accenture roles to over 1200 people in Denver versus having any one of them be changed to remote. Talking literal centuries or even millennia of combined experience in the industry and at TIAA being let out the door for nothing but to close an expensive office for a new more expensive office in Frisco for a $18M tax break.
All the loss will be close to $250M and that’s not including years of experience. No way they negotiate remote for anyone from level 1 to the top at least not until someone replaces TBD. Temu CEO is behind the times in the last century.
@a3 I was in the same boat as you… request went all the way to the level below T and was denied. Found an opportunity to be remote elsewhere, took it and ran, and couldn’t be happier.
It shouldn’t be this hard. Blocking remote work for most but allowing it for others is draining the talent here faster than the Denver closure will.
Stupid policy and good luck to them replacing our skillsets. My role is still not filled almost a full year later.
I did get a call from HR a couple months ago but didn’t answer it. Probably trying to ask me to come back to my old role and relocate to Frisco. lol nope!
@a4 million dollar question. I had to super commute from my home town to a TIAA hub on my own dime ($40-50k a year; 200 miles one way) while an associate that lived 54 miles from the same hub is remote.
Nothing to negotiate. TIAA is bringing more people back to the office.
Many roles that were remote flex are now being turned to hybrid flex.
If you live far from an office? Too bad.
If you want a fully remote job start applying to other companies.
New here… how come there are people that are still remote? Do you have to live a certain distance away from an office to qualify?
No. Unless T herself says so…
And while I’m being facetious, it’s not far from the truth. I had a legitimate and verifiable reason to be remote. My manager, who was a L4 at the time told me they tried but to make it happen it had to go to L3 (and above) and I was deemed “not worth the political capital” needed to make it happen.
Jokes on them. I left and they can’t hire/can’t find someone with my skill set.