It was announced this week that connected communities will surplus. They will notify by November 17 and those selected will be off payroll by December 1. I have heard rumors up to 50% can anyone confirm?
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"hate to say it but you're blind to what management doesn't care about" -@3dfs+1jooPyfW
No, my friend, you simply miss the forest for the trees. Do you think AT&T is going to change so you can feel better? They aren't. If you are a manager you can absolutely impact your career by leveling up, you need to look at jobs internally and externally. It may not happen exactly the way you want it to, or in the time period you think is appropriate, but it can happen. Yes, we have all gotten passed over at one point or another for promotions or specific jobs, it happens to everyone. This is true in most large companies, and also in case your parents never told you, life isn't fair. As for techs, the point was to make sure they are ready, and that the technician job is not really working 30 years until you retire anymore like it once was. So use the resources that are available to improve your marketability so that you can be ready for the next layoff, challenge, or opportunity.
@2eiq+1jooPyfW - hate to say it but you're blind to what management doesn't care about. They don't care about you. Never have. never will. They don't give a sh-t how much education or training you have. Or how much you get. It won't make any difference. In their eyes it doesn't matter.
I believe what the OP is saying is that no matter how much education you have, how much education you get while at this company, no matter if you take their education dollars they provide or if you do it using your own money (assuming you don't want to be obligated to T any more than what an employee already is), no matter if you get a degree, ANOTHER degree, a certificate, ANOTHER certificate, a useless Nanodegree, IT DOESN'T MATTER. THEY NEVER CARE! It will not help at this shithole of a company.
The only place it may matter is if you apply at another company. At AT&T, it does you NO good.
The biggest problem with being a tech is that you need to continually increase or revamp your skillset over time and the Union doesn't do enough about that. There is no defined certification and no apprenticeship programs that could make you a better tech in a defined manner, and stronger section of the industry workforce.
If you plan on staying with T, this couldn’t be further from the truth! Been a tech with T for a very long time, no training for almost 15 years and still employed! The job is so micro-managed these days that any rookie off the street can do the job with very little experience. I see it day-in and day-out, new techs joining with no experience and able to figure out the job immediately! It’s that easy these days because all you have to do is follow the installation guides! It’s no longer very technical or difficult to figure out!
Connected communities has been mismanaged for years. Hire up then downsize, hire then downsize. What happened to Flack?
First, my Mom is awesome so I would if I could.
Second, I have 3 decades here and have been through many surpluses over the years. I never said anything about the companies current position, I was encouraging others to work on their skillset in a way that would actually benefit them.
There are many things I disagree with about the company, but the point of my post is that you can improve your current marketability and insulate yourself from these things to some degree. AT&T has been laying off people for the past 7 years, and seems like your are just figuring this out now. What are you going to do about it?
You consistently complain using generalizations, and add nothing to the discussion.
"It is not a substantial amount" - @2qtk
You have about 90k available towards a degrees as a manager. That should be plenty.
@ @1cdd+1jooPyfW - go back to sleep in mommies basement. Grow up and see the reality of what a pi-s poor company does to its employees. My guess is you haven't worked at T long enough to qualify for full vesting.
I am an account manager in ACC we were notified Monday about being in an impacted work group. No one knows the real number of layoffs…I do think it will be higher in states like CA, FL, and TX where they have 14-16 account managers per state. I love my job and I hope I can stay. Going on 18 years with company and 10 years in ACC
Things like getting your degree using the Tuition reimbursement is to increase your skillset so that you have something to fall back on. That money is sitting there waiting for you to better yourself, and it's a substantial amount.
It is not a substantial amount.
There has been nothing more true than this.
"Coming from a lower management perspective it really doesn't matter how much training or education you get. Doesn't matter how much studying you do, how many classes you take to upskill and learn new technology. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY in leadership gives a sh-t how much training and education you do on your own dime. They provide free access to training courses thru LinkedIn Learning, but they only pay lip service to it. Doesn't matter if you take a ton of courses on Coursera, edEx, Udacity, etc. It will count for NOTHING. It will not get you a pay raise come merit time, it will not get you promoted, or even any advantages in lateral moves. He-l, it won't even get you an honorable mention in staff meetings. Leadership and Management DOES NOT CARE!
The only training they care about is their useless "required" training. That's only in place to cover their sorry, weak as--s.
Face it, AT&T is where careers go to die a slow death.
The ONLY training is this::
The only training they care about is their useless "required" training. That's only in place to cover their sorry, weak as--s.
"Coming from a lower management perspective it really doesn't matter how much training or education you get. Doesn't matter how much studying you do, how many classes you take to upskill and learn new technology. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY in leadership gives a sh-t how much training and education you do on your own dime. They provide free access to training courses thru LinkedIn Learning, but they only pay lip service to it. Doesn't matter if you take a ton of courses on Coursera, edEx, Udacity, etc. It will count for NOTHING. It will not get you a pay raise come merit time, it will not get you promoted, or even any advantages in lateral moves. He-l, it won't even get you an honorable mention in staff meetings. Leadership and Management DOES NOT CARE!
The only training they care about is their useless "required" training. That's only in place to cover their sorry, weak as--s.
Face it, AT&T is where careers go to die a slow death. " -@1qdw+1jooPyfW
What do you mean on your own dime? You get reimbursed or free access to all of it.
No one owes you a parade, and you are not going to get a raise or a promotion by watching a youtube video, but real industry certifications, like CompTia Network+, Security+, Azure Cloud, etc. will absolutely get you in the door at other companies, and viability for other organizations in AT&T. It also builds your resume, setting you apart from other applicants inside ATT or externally. So let me reframe this a bit for you. Do not take any classes that are on the platform unless they make your job easier or prepare you for a real industry certification.
Things like getting your degree using the Tuition reimbursement is to increase your skillset so that you have something to fall back on. That money is sitting there waiting for you to better yourself, and it's a substantial amount.
Coming from a lower management perspective it really doesn't matter how much training or education you get. Doesn't matter how much studying you do, how many classes you take to upskill and learn new technology. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY in leadership gives a sh-t how much training and education you do on your own dime. They provide free access to training courses thru LinkedIn Learning, but they only pay lip service to it. Doesn't matter if you take a ton of courses on Coursera, edEx, Udacity, etc. It will count for NOTHING. It will not get you a pay raise come merit time, it will not get you promoted, or even any advantages in lateral moves. He-l, it won't even get you an honorable mention in staff meetings. Leadership and Management DOES NOT CARE!
The only training they care about is their useless "required" training. That's only in place to cover their sorry, weak as--s.
Face it, AT&T is where careers go to die a slow death.
"It used to be that being a technician was like having a layoff bullseye on your back. Not so much anymore! These days, if you're a technician in a growing sector, you're not only safe, but you can expect to be employed with T for long enough to retire comfortably! It amazes me how much of a 180 T did in this regard! - @kbs+1jooPyfW"
Being a tech is definitely safer than being a manager, always has been (queue astronaut meme here). The biggest problem with being a tech is that you need to continually increase or revamp your skillset over time and the Union doesn't do enough about that. There is no defined certification and no apprenticeship programs that could make you a better tech in a defined manner, and stronger section of the industry workforce.
In the meantime really take a hard look at your skills versus the timelines of some of the technology we support. For many its a job, and a good one, if some of you have alot of years left, and you like that work, then start getting some IT and certifications that match our industry. Use the tuition programs and invest in yourself, you will create a buffer for yourself and your family against the economic whims of companies and markets.
There are a few of us left that are mid level managers, who did craft work in our career, so we have seen both sides of the equation. The world moves on, its not a craft versus management fight as you would like to believe, technicians are a small part of the overall AT&T workforce. The Bell System is gone, we aren't that type of company anymore, the faster you start insulating yourself against how we are changing the better you will feel and be. Good Luck.
Only 50-60%?
AT&T Connected Communities or "ACC" is an organization that negotiates bulk sales and agreements with HOAs, Apartment Buildings and Condo Associations for Internet Service, usually in multiyear packages. They are an important part of our strategy.
Connected community, whats that?
I know that some of my ‘close to retirement’ age peers are thinking long and hard about the survey that was sent out to volunteer to leave. Just wondering who makes the final decision on who stays and who goes.
I believe it is a very small #. I am in AT&T Connected Communities, one of about 50 peers performing our specific function and we are not impacted.
The truth is.. “ No one is safe” .
Literally every single organization in this company will be impacted by layoffs.
The company cannot thrive with the volume of employees here today, there is simply not enough revenue to support the weight. You will be impacted, ignore the signs and you’ll find yourself scrambling or prepare for a graceful exit to a new company or career, you choose. If you have less than 25 years, you will not retire from AT&T, and that is by design.
Connected communities, isn’t that fiber placed in new and existing apartment building's?
It used to be that being a technician was like having a layoff bullseye on your back. Not so much anymore! These days, if you're a technician in a growing sector, you're not only safe, but you can expect to be employed with T for long enough to retire comfortably! It amazes me how much of a 180 T did in this regard!
69%.
I heard 60% today but not sure how accurate that may be
Never heard of it.
what is connected communities?