Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

You left out something in your example. The H1b immigrant who produces a higher quality than the $30 weld for $12. The $30 welder exists to show that Americans can't meet the job requirements.

your jobs are leaving because you cry and whine all the time. robots can do a job 24 hours a day without any of your whining . good luck finding your next job complainer.

"AT&T has enjoyed a work force that has help train one another while AT&T does very precious little to train anyone on new technologies. What AT&T is good at is requiring each employee to take online training that will absolve AT&T if an employee gets injured." from @1zmw+1jcQu9EM

Absolutely correct and that is also true in management. I started as a wire tech and moved up. I have been in three different management positions in eight years now. Only one had any training where another manager with experience has helped me with any training. Other than that I have had to search out people and basically teach myself how to do the job. AT&T has the worst training of any company I have ever seen.

this is a troll post - re hashed from youtube. When does att need a employee that can weld?

$30 dollar welder burns a pole! ouch

why do that when robots are doing the welding and they don't complain and can work 24 hours a day. what got you in this mess is you let your emotions get the best of you and all had to do is one job.

"Is it that hard to understand experience draws higher pay? The thing is, AT&T requires experiences that are not part of typical trade school programs or apprenticeships."

Post ID: @pen+1jcQu9E You are AT&T management material.. Just a guess. Do you possibly work in mobility?

Exactly. AT&T requires skills that are not taught that much anymore. One needs to come from a background of electronics and networking to even pass the test to get hired. Once hired, one needs to get up to speed on telecom and networking on equipment as old as D4 banks and Rockwell DMX2000 and as new as 5150, 7750 and 9500. Mix in DACS for good measure. That is a span of technologies that exceeds some of the life time of our "Fast Track" managers. If you want to get up to speed on any technology older than 20 years (AT&T still has a massive amount of customers on these circuits) you need to be mentored by Techs that are now retired. We could speak about the 5E switch and the loss of knowledge, but that is a waste of internet bits.
AT&T has enjoyed a work force that has help train one another while AT&T does very precious little to train anyone on new technologies. What AT&T is good at is requiring each employee to take online training that will absolve AT&T if an employee gets injured.

AT&T got workers doing $18 per hour welds. That's for sure.

Is it that hard to understand experience draws higher pay? The thing is, AT&T requires experiences that are not part of typical trade school programs or apprenticeships.

So, unlike welders, or plumbers, or electricians, or pilots, lower pay is offered to applicants in exchange for training.

So... if you can weld, go weld and make a good living. If you don't have another trade, telecomm might be a fit. But lets not compare it to skilled trades that require real apprenticeships or licensing.