Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Will Wells Fargo’s San Francisco headquarters head to Texas?

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2022/10/11/wells-fargo-headquarters-texas-las-colinas-wfc.html

Writing is on the wall. Wells Fargo is using the same playbook as McKesson and Charles Schwab, deny deny deny, establish a huge regional office before designating it the new headquarters. In a 1-2 years time, they will be telling people they need to move to Texas or they will be laid off. Another clear sign is SF job posts are next to none, and what's been posted is also listed for dozen other alternative cities.

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Didn't their executive office that handles consumer complaints/issues just move to TX? Maybe TX is the new CA for WF and other positions will follow.

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Post ID: @4pun+1jaYCOtN

This is d-mb. The HQ is not moving to Texas. There's no reason to do so. If anything, they'd move it to NYC. They won't do that either. Again, why?

I do find it interesting that they're hiring people in Dallas and some other totally not core cities. I suppose it's related to attracting talent.

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Post ID: @1wim+1jaYCOtN

Why would Charles move to Texass when he couldn't be bothered to move to California? His precious social life exists in NYC. All the boards he's on, all the privileged rich boys clubs, all the "prestige" of being a Wall St. guy, all the parties with ho----s and blow.

He doesn't care, he'll move "headquarters" as a symbolic thing but he won't move with it. Acting like this is a big win for Texas is hilarious, you get 4k jobs and a title. BFD.

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if that were the motivation, it would have already been done with charlotte.

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I wouldn't be so sure. If Charles made Dallas his "official work location" it would save him a few million $ a year in state/city income taxes...and he could still spend all the time he wanted in NYC.

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Post ID: @1rck+1jaYCOtN

"headquarters" means nothing, as evidenced by the fact that Charlie and a bunch of the op co are in NYC, but the HQ is in SF.

what good does moving HQ do? nothing. CS and his cronies are certainly not relocating to tx. Just as they weren't going to be relocating to charlotte which was the favorite rumor until the texas rumor came up...

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Post ID: @1xyu+1jaYCOtN

It's my understanding the new complex in Irving will be a consolidation of the many offices already in the Dallas area. Much like the sale of the Park Avenue Complex and consolidating employees in the Hudson Yards facility.

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Post ID: @xhl+1jaYCOtN

All this talk about moving the headquarters is giving me loose, watery stool.

I'm not sure if I can RTO tomorrow.

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Post ID: @ybq+1jaYCOtN

Boyd there sounds like a monorail salesman, I wouldn't put too much stock into what he says.

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Post ID: @byj+1jaYCOtN

4,000 employees in new Dallas building
20,000 employees in charlotte
CEO and top execs in NYC

Clearly HC is moving to Dallas!

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Wells Fargo’s big announcement Tuesday that it’s building a major corporate campus in the Dallas area fueled persistent speculation that it’s only a matter of time before the San Francisco bank’s headquarters goes in the same direction.

The bank is building a multitower regional corporate office campus in Las Colinas, an upscale area in the Dallas suburb of Irving that touts itself as the “headquarters of headquarters.” Indeed, Las Colinas is home to McKesson and Kimberly-Clark, among others. Wells Fargo’s planned campus will be able to accommodate 4,000 employees, according to the Dallas Business Journal. Wells currently employs 3,000 in the Dallas area, across multiple offices.

The 22-acre campus is near existing offices, employee homes and public transportation. That’s a winning combination for the lifestyle talent is seeking today.

“This new mixed-use development is interesting. It’s in line with what we’re seeing. This live-work-play model that we expect will be desirable for relocating Wells Fargo workers,” site selection consultant John Boyd, a principal at The Boyd Co., told me Tuesday. “With this new facility, Wells Fargo will become a trophy employer and employer of choice in Dallas. It’s a difficult labor market, even in high-growth Texas. So with that prestige, Wells Fargo will enjoy some recruiting advantages.”

As Wells Fargo (NYSE: WFC) grows in Dallas and Charlotte remains its largest employment center, the bank’s C-suite at its nominal headquarters has become a ghost town. It’s a letdown for San Francisco, where Wells was founded in 1852 amid the Gold Rush era.

Wells Fargo, which has regularly denied speculation its headquarters is leaving California, told me Tuesday: “Wells Fargo is not moving its San Francisco headquarters.”

Such denials are common among the dearly departed, often choosing Texas for their new headquarters. Those who have moved their headquarters out of the Bay Area in recent years include McKesson, Charles Schwab and Oracle — all to Texas.

Both McKesson and Charles Schwab initially established regional offices in the Dallas-Fort Worth area before eventually designating those locations as their new headquarters. Companies often deny their headquarters are moving — until the day they announce otherwise. It’s a playbook long familiar to those in Texas.

Case in point: Even as McKesson was denying to me that its San Francisco headquarters was moving to Texas, Texas economic development officials were signaling the company headquarters was heading their way.

Wells Fargo’s big news in Texas Tuesday did little to quell speculation the bank’s headquarters could be in play.

“This certainly indicates that the center of gravity for Wells Fargo increasingly is in the Dallas metroplex region,” Boyd said. “Dallas really has emerged as a financial services powerhouse.”

In addition to Schwab’s headquarters, the area is home to major operations for JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs.

There are plenty of reasons Wells could want to make Las Colinas its new headquarters. In addition to the region’s talent pool for financial services, becoming the largest bank based in Texas could have its marketing advantages in the Lone Star State. Choosing Texas over Charlotte also could help Wells avoid playing second fiddle to Charlotte-based Bank of America, a bank that grew into what it is today in part by purchasing one of Texas’ biggest failed banks in the 1980s.

A headquarters move for Wells Fargo could also help the bank burnish its image following a series of scandals that first came to light in 2016, including one involving fake accounts and most recently concerns over minority recruitment.

Plus, it's never been easier to relocate a corporate headquarters.

“The corporate headquarters is one of the most mobile areas of the corporate structure today,” Boyd said in a 2020 interview. That’s especially true in an era when the headquarters isn’t necessarily where the CEO sits. For instance, Wells CEO Charlie Scharf — and a good portion of the bank’s C-suite — is based in New York. “Companies no longer view the headquarters as simply housing its talent and real estate. They view the headquarters site selection process as an opportunity to rebrand the company and recalibrate its image in the marketplace.”

Taxes are an increasingly important factor in where a company is based. Taxes on employees, that is. Former Bay Area residents often cite California’s high personal income taxes as a key factor in moving to Texas and elsewhere.

“The idea that an executive can save potentially tens of thousands of dollars in income tax, that’s significant,” Boyd said.

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Post ID: @zsp+1jaYCOtN

Could someone post the full text of the article?

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Post ID: @xsl+1jaYCOtN

lower taxes

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Post ID: @ldp+1jaYCOtN

Won't affect my 100% remote job.

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Post ID: @iya+1jaYCOtN
  1. You're too slow
  2. Why does it matter?
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