I've been looking for six months. I finally found something that worked perfectly for me and after a nearly month-long process that involved four separate interviews - all of which I thought went well - I finally got an offer. It's $25k under what we discussed during the interviews. I'm pi---d beyond belief. Why waste my time if you're not going to be honest and honor what you said? Is this how things are done now?
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Wise words. A good leader never prepares for any sort of succession plan or backup plan for any spots on their team. They simply post a job once it opens and sees who applies.
Oh, one more thing, I saw a WF recruiter go in and endorse an outside candidate on linkedin. Had never worked with this person. Recruiter's husband was the hiring manager. Don't know if this recruiter had this assignment, but still seemed shady to me. And the hiring manager told the candidate not to worry about the panel interview as it was up to him who was going to be hired. This was 2 mos ago. And didn't WF just settle something for this tactic? A waste of time for other candidates. Happens over and over.
In my experience, there is no way the H R person can make the distinction on qualification. You can bet if outside hire pay offer is usually more than what an WF employee in the US in a similar job is earning. And, does HR run the bank? Management tends to hide behind the HR personnel. HR said this, and HR said that. Blah, blah, blah.
That HR response is ridiculous. I would hope that if a candidate doesn't live up to the "hype" then they wouldn't be extended an offer. It's more likely that that candidate performed well. Afterall, an offer was extended. However, somebody decided to lowball him just because. He should respectfully decline and move on to other positions that will pay what he expects to be paid.
M7 here. Can confirm that sometimes recruiters will find that impressive resumes don’t live up to the hype when they interview so we give them discretion to simply offer 25k less than originally discussed. As an M7 who reports to chuckie, I think this makes sound business sense to base a 25k annual decision off of an hour long interview. To heck with someone does during the other 1600 working hours of the year. They underwhelm that hour, kiss 25k goodbye.
And yes me and the other senior executives agree that it’s a great idea to give recruiters that kind of discretion.
the "HR here" post is a troll
that's not how it works.
The cashier doesn't give a rat's a** about the customers, she's already quietly quit because she's in the running for a Sr Exec job paying 8 figures. DE&I has been working famously
Somebody need to learn the casheir in the cafeteria how to satisfact they customer. Please respond or forward this service request to the correct department. Thank you and God bless.
I turned down an offer that was about the same amount below what was discussed. Told them "hard pass" on the offer (formally declined), and got my original number, after, "Special Approval". You could try that, but you need to be ready to walk away or they'll know.
As a hiring manager I don't usually extend offers to candidates who are just okay so would be worth less and never significantly lower than the "range" stated in the screening. What kind of chicken s---t company would pull that? Oh, yeah, nvm.
Be tough, walk away (unless you are unemployed). If you let them do this to you now when they are trying to "attract talent" imagine how awesome they will be to work for when they don't give 2 s---ts about you.
Clear case of overconfidence and low ability
"Many candidates present a great resume but then fail to demonstrate during their interviews that they have that level of expertise (i.e. they failed to live up to their own hype)."
So you're basically accusing the applicant of lying and then giving them a lowball job offer? ROFLMAO
The way WF HR responded to this post is all you need to know about WF and what they deem has acceptable behavior.
That HR response is laughable and hypocritical. Attributing this to candidates who "fail to live up to their own hype" ... that's a characterization that I would apply to HR in general at WF and this particular HR response.
Unprofessional to say the least. Companies are not desperate for employees anymore so the resort to these lowball sleazy actions.
Counter with your salary expectations or respectfully decline the position and let them know why.
"HR," why would you make an offer to someone who's not up to snuff?
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HR responder, your comment is such a load of bs spin. So you are saying based on the interview the applicant’s asking price can decrease significantly based on interview performance. That is just wrong on every level. Job history experience and targeted skill set should be number one focus and if the person interviewed well enough for an offer don’t insult the person with an hr spin on lowball salary offer.
Tech budgets are all messed up at the moment - blame Tech for doing it to themselves. Sounds like they tried to get you on the cheap to meet budget constraints. WF is a very toxic place.
So wrong! They should has let you know up front they cannot offer you the amount you were asking for. They ask you upfront in the recruiter interview, just rotten!
Another lawsuit in the making based on hr common sense processes that should be in place!
Far too many openings to figure out poster readily. WF HR is terrible. Been through it.
They should not have treated you in such an unprofessional manner. I’m sorry that happened to you. They’re probably hopeful you would feel invested and take the position even though they won’t compensate you fairly. They don’t care one bit about their Team Members. And to the poster above, why would this person be scared HR can track down this was her post? That’s a ridiculous statement. She has nothing to fear unless you’re suggesting HR would retaliate against her.
They should not have treated you in such an unprofessional manner. I’m sorry that happened to you. They’re probably hopeful you would feel invested and take the position even though they won’t compensate you fairly. They don’t care one bit about their Team Members. And to the poster above, why would this person be scared HR can track down this was her post? That’s a ridiculous statement. She has nothing to fear unless you’re suggesting HR would retaliate against her.
Welcome to Wells Fargo! Business as usual!
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HR here! While every job req has a prescribed compensation range tied to it, what we ultimately offer candidates depends on a number of factors, including your work experience and how well you demonstrated said-experience during your interviews.
Many candidates present a great resume but then fail to demonstrate during their interviews that they have that level of expertise (i.e. they failed to live up to their own hype).
So in many cases, candidates truly do exercise greater control than they think over the offer's compensation.
Imagine how easy it would be for a recruiter to figure out who you are with such details lol and now you’re scared and no you can’t delete your post lol