Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Frustratingly normal to wait months. “Recruiters are overwhelmed,” this has been said for years. The whole process needs an overhaul.

OP, i'm the one who asked you what stage... i'm also a hiring manager. I can tell you 100% for sure that neither recruiting nor the hiring manager can see your reviews.

For them to have any insight about your review, they would have to speak with the current manager - which they don't do until they are ready to check refs (and you are notified about that).

Not hearing anything for three weeks isn't unusual after an interview, but it is sloppy. Ask the recruiter where you stand.

per your original question - withdrawing application doesn't do anything either way with consideration for other roles.

If you have an opportunity to get out, go! My life has been so much better since I left that sh*t show. I’m not sure how I made it through the last year but I am so glad I’m no longer there. Low morale, poor management and absolutely no respect for their employees. They’re driving people out so they can bring in Chase people. Plain and simple. Go!

Workday has the keys to the kingdom. They are a third party company’s HR service for a few of the large banks (BofA, WF, Citi). So if you apply at WF, recruiters could, in theory, know you are applying at other workday clients.

OP here. For one role, I interviewed with the hiring manager. That was 3 weeks ago with no update yet. That's what I find weird. I'm not offended if I wasn't their cup of tea for that role, but to just let it sit dormant for 3 weeks? Just tell me 'thanks, but no thanks'!

I wasn't thinking that Meets would be a disqualifier for other roles that I've screened for. I was thinking more along the lines of the hiring manager reading my midyear and being put off by a comment from my manager about something, or maybe they saw an answer I gave in a different interview and didn't like it, etc. A recruiter I talked to said that she could see my other recent screening responses so she wasn't going to ask me them all over again. So now I'm not sure what all hiring managers look at when making their decision.

I understand that people are busy so that explains some of the delay. I also understand that if I knocked the interview out of the ballpark in the eyes of the hiring manager then I'd already have an offer by now.

So I think what I'm seeing is that I was seen as average and therefore not worth the time to keep updated. They're probably waiting for the unicorn candidate to come along, and when the unicorn doesn't come along, they'll make an offer to whoever happens to still available for the role.

(I haven't been at WF for several years so I'm still getting to know the internal hiring culture.)

OP, what interviews did you complete? Just the recruiter, hiring manager, other?

Where you get stalled in the process means different things. regardless it's the recruiter's job to tell you where you are and what's going on. Recruiters are so overworked and overwhelmed that they don't do it proactively. But they are supposed to respond if asked. Have you asked?

My experience is that wells isn't much different than most other large companies. If the hiring manager has their act together AND you are a top candidate, the process moves briskly and you are kept 'warm' along the way. But in most cases you don't find that.

Regarding something being in your "file" - recruiter doesn't have access to anything in your HR file other than last performance rating. And "meets" is by no means a disqualification. I and other peer managers have even hired people who got "inconsistently meets" after understanding what drove the rating.

HR is a disaster right now

I have a coworker who came in laterally with no raise. Ever since she started all they’ve done is pile more and more work on her from peers leaving and they keep telling her no raise even though the work is higher level. There’s no way I’d risk the same

In the decades I've been here I've been called up to 2 months after posting. I've also not even had a follow-up call or form e-mail denial after an executive friend got me an interview for a fairly high-level job I had posted to.

There's zero logic you can apply to understand the hiring system here. Professionalism is supposed to start from the top and permeate the culture, but the only thing the current executive team emits is hatred for the people who facilitate the bank earning money every day.

It's ridiculous, management expects us to give our souls for this place when they're like, "No, this profit is for people who bought digital certificates from other financial institutions. You just work here."

Agreed. Applied to several positions exact same response. No response and then they repost and repost saying not enough applicants. It is unprofessional and rude the way they treat applicants. And to op, I’m reading you don’t get raise on lateral moves. Not sure why someone would want to do that unless leaving a really bad situation.

Don't withdraw. Recruiters will ask if you have other interviews of potential offers pending.

As an employee you know that many things move at glacial pace in the company-- especially internal postings. They could be interviewing, hiring leader could be slacking on finishing things, recruiter could be way behind.

Don't withdraw it. Nobody knows or cares how many positions you have applied for and how many are in an interview status. HR & the recruiting process are so messed up here.

The hiring manager may be slow, but likely the backlog or postings is holding up the process. I was recently offered a role after like 2 months in the interview stage

If I had to take a wild guess, I'd guess that your problem is where you fall on this grid:

https://www.smithchavezlaw.com/eeo-1-report-template/eeo-1-report-template-1/

Why do you want to stay and work for a company that is so sh---y not to follow up with a two minute phone call to their own employee who spent their time interviewing for a lateral role? Shows you exactly what they think of their people and legacy WF employees. Sick. They have no shame, respect or class.

I applied for an internal position in late March, did 2 interviews in the next ~3 weeks. Then the hiring freeze came. Not sure if it was DEI or the mass exodus of recruiters or both. Fast forward to early September (2 weeks ago) and they scheduled a 3rd interview for the same position. Was told they had to start over with interviews. It's such a $hit show. I know of another position that took a year to fill. To top it off, just got an offer outside the company last week. Actually wanted to stay but I'm not waiting on the unknowns.