Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Agile is about reducing head count

and driving the cattle hard for two week "sprints" to keep pushing their limits.

This is how the bank is going to try to function through being shortstaffed in many areas.

No one wants to be the hold up on a sprint. The scrum team is there to push the worker bees to stay up late at night to meet the deadline. Then repeat.

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Your mistake is in thinking what WF has is "agile." It's not. It is called "scrumfall." https://www.cio.com/article/309171/scrumfall-when-agile-becomes-waterfall-by-another-name.html

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Post ID: @4vjy+1hijdtBq

Wells Fargo problems will not be fixed by any software development methodology including Agile in any form. The bank is toxic. Leadership is flawed. Offshoring will make things worst.

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Post ID: @3jvj+1hijdtBq

I never even heard of "Waterfall" before it became the defacto straw man for proponents of Agile.

All I know is that stuff worked pretty darn well before all this Agile cr@p. Versus what's happening now.

Every time there's a failure with Agile, they give the same old straw-man argument about Waterfall. Who cares.

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Post ID: @3ihb+1hijdtBq

We had a project that started with a firm implementation date - Feb 16th. The PMO “leadership” team spent weeks in deliberation about a key detail that everyone needed to know before functional requirements could be created based upon their decision. This was a huge project and, because of their delays, we workers had to work 10-12 hour days and skip PTO around the holidays in order to deliver requirements in 3 consecutive sprints leading right up to the week before Christmas. We made it and implemented on time. One week before the successful implementation, I and my scrum master were given “inconsistently meets” on our reviews, despite having very positive reviews at mid-year and no mention of performance concerns while we slaved over requirements until 9pm night after night and begged policy leaders to make key decisions.
That’s the kind of bu__s_it you can expect from Wells Fargo. I quit.
New job is way better. Seriously guys, the grass is WAY greener just about anywhere after jumping from the stagecoach.

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Post ID: @2axo+1hijdtBq

Never forget Wells Fargo's logo is stage coach and moves at that pace, not to mention there is the right way, the wrong way and the Wells way.

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Post ID: @2qoq+1hijdtBq

Agile for WF is a consulting firm's wet dream...

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Post ID: @1gqv+1hijdtBq

If you cannot adopt Agile, something that is at a min. 15 years old, you deserve to be buried.

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Post ID: @ame+1hijdtBq

@zuv So true! Lots of clueless ppl at Wells still amaze me how they think this is unique to us and don’t understand how it should work. Same with the F.K. model for writing communications. This is a military resource meant for “straight outta high school” staff-not to use to write letters to customers about complex financial matters. This place is run by mo--ns and could mess up making a PB&J sandwich.

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Post ID: @ztk+1hijdtBq

Agile is fine and works great in many organizations.

Wells Fargo just had no clue what agile is, and is screwing it up as they do everything else they try.

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Post ID: @zuv+1hijdtBq

@bsw
Numerous grammar errors in your post, yet you criticize others for their English

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Post ID: @tov+1hijdtBq

WF is doing some ba----dized version of agile. Before I quit we were moving to agile but still implementing on a waterfall quarterly release schedule.
What kind of fuckery is that?
So glad I quit this shitshow

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Post ID: @qjo+1hijdtBq

@bsw+1hijdtBq has the correct answer

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Post ID: @mkr+1hijdtBq

If you've worked outside of WF then you know that we're not truly Agile. The teams are not empowered at all.

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Post ID: @eyw+1hijdtBq

Agile does not scale. Ok for small projects with actual collocation. Ok within a waterfall schedule with good scope development. Just the latest craze and the way it is implemented, not just wells, way more inefficient due to all the finite roles. Total and complete boondoggle.

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Post ID: @qbl+1hijdtBq

I've did agile at a mid size firm. It was great, but everyone was White or Asian and spoke perfect English that was clear as day, teams were much smaller, people had great skill sets, and the avg IQ was about 50 points higher. What i've witness here is a bunch of low skill Indians, who are faking it, who barely speak a word of clear English, mumble, huge size teams, way to many meetings, poor communication, lack of ownership, lazy team members, etc.. its like a different world. Most the Indians will bounce as soon as someone else also offers them 1 extra dollar, zero loyalty.
I think Charlie really screwed up. 5 top notch headcount are worth more than 5000 id--ts faking Agile.

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Post ID: @bsw+1hijdtBq

Agile is Absurd
Waterfall is the best of all approaches.

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Post ID: @qzl+1hijdtBq

Agile is slower than waterfall. I have never seen so much documentation and wasted time in meetings. It is BS. We used to get things done in half the time with waterfall by giving demos to the stakeholders/business intermittently to get their feedback. We used to prototype functionality in an hour and demo it and then put that functionality in the application - ready to go in less than a day. Agile doesn't fix anything. It makes your timelines longer with more meetings and less doing using a lot of buzz words and processes that don't really accomplish anything, except to let everyone gab more.

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Post ID: @rbf+1hijdtBq

meh, my experience is they promise a date and don’t make it “we’ll deliver in next sprint”

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Post ID: @jrp+1hijdtBq

Agile is micromanagement.

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