https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-26/deloitte-survey-women-are-burnt-out-and-want-to-quit-their-jobs
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@1yml,
First, data doesn't show men get paid more than women for the same job.
Next, I'm sure women studied what's done around the house and determined they did all the work. Even though 90% of the work was created by them. From putting up decorations for every holiday to scooping po-p out of a box for your cat.
You wouldn't keep getting interrupted in meetings if you quit talking once in a while.
Men are victims of violence more than women.
Men have to beg for medical care and usually end up self-diagnosing. Women are responsible for 90% of healthcare usage.
When you get back from your mental health day off, we'll try to treat you like a man. Your first task will be sitting there while we nag you constantly for a hours on end.
Harvard study show women are not as commited to their work or company as their male competitors.
Elon should buy thelayoff.com while he's at it. He could pay for it with a loan against the rest of his burrito he didn't finish yesterday.
Don't necessarily disagree, it's your experience not mine, but I'm still waiting for something to be "given". Haven't seen it much, to men or women. One of the most effective managers I ever had the pleasure of working with at WF was a woman. It's an impressive skill to watch in action, regardless of s-x. Inspirational really. I didn't have to give her anything, her skill demanded it.
Both sides of this fence need to start thinking about the other side with empathy and understanding. We all have more in common than we don't. It's hard in life to be either s-x, just for different reasons.
My best managers have been men, too, and yes I am a guy. But I don't think that's the whole story.
Women have to work harder to be taken seriously, IMO. Men who are higher up in the org often get the first name treatment....as in "Bill wants this to happen" so everybody just jumps on it. Where as women in a similar position are more likely to get this reaction from their team "we have to do it".
It's a subtle difference and certainly NOT universal, but in my 25+ years of working here and other places, it is definitely the case more times than not.
And the reason why I say men have been better managers is that, because of this unequal treatment, they get to just shoot from the hip because they get the benefit of the doubt. Sadly, women don't nearly as often, even senior ones.
Pardon the armchair psychology - which may well be false - but my problem with women managers has always been their over abundance of caution. This only became exponentially worse after the sales scandal.
This is only my single-person experience in a company with over 250K employees.
Women just need more respect and flexibility to be given the benefit of the doubt , just like their male counterparts get.
Percentage wise, my best managers have been men. Maybe by 10 or 15 percentage points. These best managers had a better feel for the group as a whole, and related better.
It's funny how many people talk about their own children and raising them as if it's the worst thing in the world, rather than one of the more rewarding things a human being could ever be involved in.
I’d love to be treated like a man.
First — I’d get paid more. Data shows men are paid more then women.
Next — If I were a man, I’d have less household duties because, again, data shows that in working households that men STILL do less child rearing, less housework, less everything.
I’d have more career mobility. I wouldn’t be interrupted in meetings. I wouldn’t have to lessen myself to deal with mens fragile egos. I wouldn’t be afraid to walk home at night. I wouldn’t be as----ted, cat called or groped.
Id get better medical care (data shows men get better care with doctors and are believed more in terms of pain or disease/illness).
Please, treat me like a men. I would do less.
I bet they didn't survey a single female brick layer.
Most women have two jobs. The one they get paid for, and the one they don’t. No wonder they’re burned out.
We all have our roles. Any time you ladies want to die younger, do the dangerous jobs, and make up the vast majority of military/police/firefighter deaths, just let us know when you want to switch things up. I'm not dismissing the notion that juggling work and stuff outside of work isn't a lot to handle, but the grass isn't exactly greener over here. Life is hard.
Busey always says:
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We'll, women are treated like the men. Isn't that what women wanted? Or should they get different treatment now?
Not surprising. Women generally carry more of the household functioning, family appointments, etc. in addition to work. Employers never care to help them.