Never before attended more meetings where leadership casually uses profanity. Has anyone else noticed it’s creeping into larger meetings? “F this/that”, “sucks”, totally unprofessional. I’m not a prude but there’s a time and place to vent like that but it’s not in a meeting with 5+ attendees. Is this happening across WF?
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@aid+1grDR9Kp Curious- is there an email for anonymous Ethics complaints? I looked and only see a phone number. Can someone post it here?
If Busey were in that meeting you would know:
Please
Rant
Only
Foul
Arsed
Ninjas
Eulogize
@jsk+1grDR9Kp coarse
I would tend to agree, on the other hand I also have concerns when a manager plays cheerleader, or does so through omission, when demonstrably poor ideas come down the chain. I mean, do we want integrity and candor or not?
@oag... Sure managers are human. And, yes they can complain too. However, it's unwise for management to openly complain and vent to people under them. That undermines your leadership to do that. Personally, I don't have a lot of faith in a leader who can't problem solve, maintain composure, and display emotional stability.
not at my Wells Fargo.. they must have learned that bad language at Chase.
"you’re simply surrounded by the former most beautiful city in the United States now descended into filth, squalor and cultural collapse from 40 years of far left rule."
You can always count on some right-winger to interject politics into a discussion any chance they get.
I don't like course language used in a financial environment amongst any level of the employee base. I have seldom heard it. I won't respond in kind. Speaking of the F word. I also don't use the word sucks. It is not being prudish, but selective on purpose. A competent vocabulary allows for avoidance of these words.
Yes, love it! Now i can finally speak freely.
Oh no, not naughty words!
There are much more important things to be worrying about at this dump rather than adults having a normal conversation.
I assume that you’re not employed in metro San Francisco. If you are, you’re simply surrounded by the former most beautiful city in the United States now descended into filth, squalor and cultural collapse from 40 years of far left rule.
If you’re in San Francisco you really have no argument. There is now a very low level of discourse and you live there by choice.
HR is there to protect the bank from the employees… not vice versa. You can gather all the notes that you want but you will lose that game every time unless something really outrageous happens to you and there are witnesses..
Ethics line lol
I found it shocking! I thought maybe it is just because I was used to working in very old school banks. My 1 up, 2 up and other leaders around me swear all the time. It is weird.
Don’t join in the complaining. Managers will hold it against you if you dare to complain about anything at Wells Fargo and the WF “family.” (Pu-e). Don’t say anything negative EVER is the best strategy to survive here.
But Workers complain about their job too… now managers can’t? We are all human! Get a life lol
"employee handbook - read it - no recording allowed - they will fire you and not the manager..."
They cannot prove you are recording. Record the conversation, use the recording to take contemporaneous notes, delete the recording.
Your notes will hold more clout than anyone else's recollection of what happened.
https://www.forensicnotes.com/contemporaneous-notes-as-evidence-not-just-for-fbi-directors/
employee handbook - read it - no recording allowed - they will fire you and not the manager...
IDK, but I just started with a new group and a couple of managers casually drop f bo--s and use other cuss words casually. I am not a prude either but it is definitely unprofessional and makes the speaker seem immature. I have also witnessed managers venting about their job and complaining about everything. Not very good examples of leadership.
+1 on recording.. before my manager was fired I used to record all of our 1 on 1 meetings and then take notes from the recording.
The notes were invaluable when I filed my complaints because of the level of detail in my notes that my manager could not refute or recollect.
Classy.
Easy fix... Record the audio and submit an anonymous ethics complaint -- use a VPN -- with the audio file attached.