If you were asked to sign a union card indicating you want a union to represent the employees at Wells and you refused, what would be your reason? A union can negotiate this RTO BS for us, among other things. What would cause you to vote no or abstain?
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@3mah Like all the intelligent comments on this board that ultimately amount to nothing? We speak for ourselves all the time and nothing changes. Leadership doesn’t care what we think. That’s clearly why the question was asked.
Unions are for people who lack the ability, or dare I say it, INTELLIGENCE to speak for themselves.
Unions take your money and leave you p*ssing in the wind.
Seriously, it is used in communist/socialist countries for people without freedom.
Read history.
white collar employees seeking to unionize like their blue collar brethren of yesteryear. Instead of unsafe work practices and piecemeal labor, we have souless corporations lead by unscrupulous ivy league millionaires. they will increase our productivity, set unrealistic goals and reward us by outsourcing 100k jobs to India.
It's just that I don't trust a union any more than I do HR to get it right. It will be mismanaged and corrupt. Maybe if it is free, leadership voluntary and internal only, membership voluntary for all positions, maybe it could work.
The fact that this has come up here is a red flag it is time to quit. We can't make this place better - in time at least. I am so depressed by everything. Time to leave.
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Lol, touché - does that mean you’ll volunteer to write the first draft? Since I’m clearly unqualified for the job
Maybe find someone who can actually spell bylaws correctly to write them up?
“ We don’t have to invite them in - we can start our own union and write our own bi-laws, set our own dues, decide for ourselves what those dues get spent on.”
We should be organized by about 2052 then?
For those of you that don’t trust the big unions, guess what? We don’t have to invite them in - we can start our own union and write our own bi-laws, set our own dues, decide for ourselves what those dues get spent on.
That’s the beauty of the right to unionize, every team member gets a say and nothing happens without a vote. I have more faith in my teammates to make collective decisions that serve our own interests than I do in Chuckles Schart and company to do anything other than what’s best for themselves and their elite buddies in the 1%…
I know a lot of people who are in a union and all but one make more money then their peers at non-union shoots and they all have better benefits, but most importantly they have POWER.
There’s a good reason executives are scared of unions and fight so hard to keep them out of their businesses. Unions take away a significant chunk of their power and put it in the hands of their employees. Unions transform capitalist organizations from authoritarian kleptocracies into pseudo-democracies.
So yes, I see it as my patriotic duty to support a unionization effort and would absolutely sign a union card if asked to do so!
A lot of you sound lazy enough to be in a union.
Nope, and I would leave WF is there was a union. Unions only result in lower pay for everyone in the long run, and people being promoted based on how long they've here rather than whether they deserve it. I've seen unions fight to keep on worthless and lazy workers. No thanks to that. I don't want to work next to someone who's just gonna do average work so rest of us have to work harder.
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That is a result of things like no child left behind (which meant no rich child, but I digress, lack of funding to give rich folks a tax cut, and other shenanigans from certain people who like to keep the populace d-mb so they believe the BS they shovel.
My mom had nothing but bad experiences with the United Autoworkers (UAW) back in Michigan when she was working the GM assembly lines. They didn't do kr-p for her except take a payment from her paycheck. Nothing but a good ol' boy network.
I vote no.
Not only would it be embarrassing it would be professional su----e to join a white collar union
Sorry op, I have marketable skills I can take anywhere. Sounds like you are overpaid for what you do
The #1 reason I would unionize is because when CS was asked by Congress if he'd support us creating a union he replied "it's not necessary. If there's something our employees need, we'll listen to them." (Not a direct quote, but that was the gist of it... Same as all the other banks present.)
I consider that answer to be a blatant lie as I see no evidence that CS has listened to us ever since giving that answer.
I'll vote for a union if 100% of the leadership is volunteer only and there's no dues. I'm not paying for some hacks $5000 suits and gold pinkie rings. If they care, they'll invest their time without comp. Otherwise it's just another scam for some clowns to get paid for not producing anything.
If you’re for unions you should look into how the public school systems have been devastated over the past 40 years.
I used to be against unions and the race towards mediocrity that it represented. But as I've sat in on WF exec leadership team meetings and listened to the "new blood" reduce team members (apologies Charlie, "employees") to a statistic, I realized that unions are the only thing that can save team members who remember that WF used to be a great place to work that we were all so proud to call our employer. Unions can protect the rank and file from the callous whims of so-called leaders who have clearly put their own self-interests above those of their own team members (uh, employees) and even the company itself.
I vote "YES" to a union at WF.
I would unionize.
This myth that unions are all bad is BS. I know plenty of union workers that are well paid, pay less for health insurance and have better retirement benefits than non-unionized workers.
We’re just scared to take action.
@1pzu Yep. A union is a one-way ticket to the level of the lowest common denominator.
One other benefit of unions is that promotions are based on longevity. No more having to put in effort to move to that next level, just outlast the person next to you.
@OP great trolling of the troll.
I make well above the average WF salary and I'm all for unionizing since it'd make most of us a lot more money.
Given the overall politics involved, I don't believe any union would be as helpful as you'd think on the whole RTO thing. WFH doesn't fit their agenda at all.
Don’t kid yourself. Unions are in it for the unions not the workers.
Have you ever been to Detroit? If you have you wouldn't pushing unions.
I would sign just to be a pain in Chuckie’s a-s.
Nothing good comes from unionizing in the long run.
It would depend on the union. Not all unions are the same.