Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Great points all around. Management is going to have to adjust to us not being available outside of core hours. so really the work day in terms of scheduling meetings is going to shrink with everyone suddenly commuting (9 am PST to 5 pm EST = five hours). We are under no obligation to accomodate them. They are doing this to us.

I am not going to accomodate coworkers who are going to disregard lunch breaks because our calendars will be much more jam packed.

Since they also took our phones away and I refuse to install the WF container app on my personal phone, I really won't be available. No more late video calls from my new boss ... I will truly be signed out the moment I disconnect at the office.

My employment law wife said the work week is actually 37.5 hours for salaried employees, not 40. Something about still having to give us 30 minute paid lunch breaks. Does that mean we can leave at 7.5 hours if we do not take a break? So, considering lunch breaks, even less meeting times.

Who are all you sycophants who think everyone will just bow down to Chuckie and his directives at the expense of our own health, happiness, and sanity? Some people still stand up for what they believe in and what is best for themselves and/or their family. If you want to be a lemming and jump off the cliff, enjoy the plunge, but there’s a good number of us who will stick to our g-ns and not RTO. I am one and will do so proudly, even if it means getting fired for working productively at home.

Don’t be a lemming! Stand up to these outdated, control freak leaders who and in and out of here every couple years.

@laa+1fFC6Z6M - Spicy burrito for breakfast, fish for lunch!

@qgp so stop coming here to whine.

Dear ID: @laa+1fFC6Z6M
What’s for lunch?

100. Fish Tacos 🐟 🌮

It’s great being in middle school again hearing all the whining.

@laa+1fFC6Z6M I don’t understand these posts at all. Why would you degrade yourself while being in the office with a bunch of other people who would also prefer not to be? To give people grade school examples of why they don’t want to be in the office?

Being mannerless only reflects on you, try to remember that. Don’t let this place take your dignity.

@ffx our open floor plan led to one single type of collaboration: NERF battles.

Otherwise everybody ignored everybody else.

@bwd+1fFC6Z6M
They have already started. They walk outside on the sidewalks. Some masked, some not. But they go out every 2 hours for a half hour at a time, and still take a nice long lunch.

In Charlotte, before the 'pandemic' there were folks who seemingly roamed the series of bridges, walkways and tunnels that connect the uptown buildings. Doing any real work? - who knows, but the regulars haunted the overstreet, clearly doing laps and never placing their buttocks in seats.

Upon RTO, this practice will no doubt increase several fold. I'm going to install a camera so we can view the same point throughout the day and wager on the frequent strollers. "Over/under on the woman in the black Wells vest is 20 passes today. No way green-umbrella-guy makes it more than six passes in those shoes."

https://hbr.org/2019/11/the-truth-about-open-offices - summed up very well by the Harvard brainiacs.

Agreed about the open floor plan. We have collectors who shout at debtors over the phone and the entire floor can hear them. It's awful and makes it hard for customers to believe we are who we say we are when there are people shouting and screaming at people in the background.

I can't believe we spend millions on this d-mb open floor plan...

Why does anyone in leadership think disruption and a noisy atmosphere is a wonderful and productive idea? C suite must have buddies in the consulting biz selling this lemon of a plan.

The lack of common sense is astounding

@umi+1fFC6Z6M don't forget elevensies!

Ever since they came up with the open floor space the office is not productive. I got so much more done (+ no distractions) with a cubicle or WFH. The open floor plan is so disruptive when you see and hear people constantly.
Granted I was one of those who work more than my 8 when WFH (retired now), WFH was usually 10 or 12 hour day. Good luck guys!

Don't worry on day one, we'll be greeted by the greatest Tech/WF Bands spreading the state approved propaganda

• Saul and the Agile-Tones (Dear Leader's Technology Agile Ballad and We Collaborate Better in the Office)
• Powell and the RTO Blues band (RTO is the Purest Form of Loyalty hymns)

What should I do for lunch on my first day back in office?

1. Microwave fish and sink up the office.
2. Have mexican for lunch and blow up the bathroom.

I can't wait to stink up the place

@xkk Prior to Covid?

I worked from home, just like I continue to do. It's called a technology job.

That reminds me! Don’t forget that RTO starts the day after Daylight Savings starts, so add waking up an hour earlier than you would have to wake up to commute to the mix.
I remember reading somewhere about how there are more accidents the week after daylight savings starts due to people being tired and the sun being in their eyes, so let’s add people who haven’t commuted for 2 years.

Don’t forget the multiple trips to the bathroom, only to discover all stalls are in use.

@xli+1fFC6Z6M

OP here. Great question about pre-pandemic scheduling.

Short bio: years ago, before Wells I worked a 100% remote role that allowed a great work/life balance.

Applied for a position at Wells. Management was the old school, tails in seats type. I explained by current situation, and they valued me enough in that role to offer a ton of flexibility. Of course I compromised by agreeing to commute.

Fast-forward to the pandemic. Management, who was previously unfamiliar with the WFH model, has seen us flourish in it for two years. Employee availability is up, profitability is up, work/life balance is the best it's been for me. Seems like a win-win.

I had hoped for some progressive thinking when it came time to consider RTO, but sadly it isn't going to happen.

@xkk+1fFC6Z6M

Nothing better than going backward, huh? (Eyes rolling)

BEST RTO post yet! So accurate! The urge to RTO shows the quagmire of thinking this bank refuses to crawl out of. New leadership or not, there’s no fresh thought going on. RTO out of consideration for small business, no way have they considered that! They’re sitting on multiple 50+-year commercial space leases, occupied or not! So, when long term leases, nor market priced leases work, what’s a solution? RTO is certainly not a good idea, all around! All this “collaboration” is 💩

we need small businesses to run and money to rotate. It can happen when everyone returns to office. May be the management is thinking in that angle.

whatever did we do before COVID and wfh. and if you are exempt you aren't technically required to work 40 hours although your management may have something to do with it. our groups leadership told us the other day that he'll be declining a lot more early meetings due to rto. productivity will drop at first but eventually will level out and we'll be back to where we were 2 years back.

Anyone else's manager saying badge in, say hi to someone, badge out, and go back home? That's my RTO plan.

I was just on a call with a person in the office. It was difficult to hear because person in the office had to talk low so didn’t disturb others while those around were chitchatting. I heard something about restaurants in the background so no it wasn’t about work and they kept getting louder. This is going to be fun with calls going forward.

Should have thought about all that before having kids. Sounds like you can't both parent and work.

You forgot the trips to get food. Breakfast, Morning Break, Lunch, Afternoon break. Late afternoon coffee.

RTO is a joke. I've worked from home since 2008 (eight of those years at Wells Fargo). The collaboration bu-----t is just that...bu-----t.
Find a job that will let you work remote. Your sanity will thank you.
So glad I left this shitshow of a company last year.

@ulh+1fFC6Z6M
In office? I'm lucky to get 4 hours of work done in a day. Badge in, have half of my day wasted with shoulder taps where I have to refer people to someone else. Because they know I work in technology I am the one they point at when everything from internal websites, printers, phones, computers, scanners, or file shares do not work - even though I have nothing to do with repair or support. I may have 1 or 2 hour-long calls, get a couple of hours to do actual work, then I go home. Far less productivity than I had working remotely.

Best RTO post yet...in theory. We are 100% more effective and efficient without the commute, distractions from coworkers, etc. And our families are much stronger for it, too.

But...devil's advocate here: what this how you managed your days pre-pandemic because I didn't.

I left the house at an unholy early hour (up even earlier to get ready, get kids ready, etc.) to get kids to school and me to work (usually in around 8:15/8:30 depending on traffic). Of course, school starts vary, so that easily has an impact...Ours just happens to start pretty early.

I regularly worked through lunch (popped out long enough to pick up if I didn't bring it). Had too many meetings, mostly calls because of geography.

Left at 5pm sharp to get kids from after school program (here's where work/life balance is a joke!) to rush to fast food, then sports activities. Finally home for baths and bedtime for kids, meaning we got maybe an hour of "family time" but not quality really.

I have no intention of RTO, but not because it's less productive (it is way less productive), but because family time IS much more important. I pick my kids up from carpool almost every day, the only rush out the door is to get to school on time. We are all happier (mental well-being) for it.

My advice: look elsewhere that truly values work/life balance and solid family relationships (and mental well-being).

Let the 💩 show begin...

You should probably get started a little earlier.

Too bad that's not what your going to do. You are required to work 40 hours a week. You are a little short.