A small percentage of employees have refused to respond to the COVID survey. They have been reminded to respond both by their EVP and Senior Manager. Does anyone know these employees will be terminated for cause?
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Consequence plans are a joke I have challenged people to do the Consequence now.. they just slink away. Consequence models are just words. Nothing actually happens
Every post that disagrees with me is a Russian bit. Reeeeeee!
You don't have to do anything you don't want to do.
But there are consequences to your choices.
There are no lawyers posting on this topic today. Please don't take some internet rando's advice on your rights.
Your employer has rights, too.
And FFS, who are these weirdos who won't even get tested? I get that you may be scared of needles or secret mind controlling microchips (OMG!) but a test?
I think those are Russian bots, spreading FUD to cause stress on America.
Refusing to be testing. You're not thinking you're reacting and confusing the rage farming the right wing media does with your physical health.
They can’t terminate you for refusing to answer, but they can, in most cases, terminate you for not testing or evidencing vaccination. Whether the company or employee is right to test these limits is a subjective value judgement.
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If you refuse to answer, you leave yourself open to termination for cause but some people think it's a hill worth dying on. Depending on which state, it's possible you won't get unemployment or Cobra. Tough choice but hey .. people have a choice.
Company has the right to ask for vaccination status, but the employee has the right to refuse to answer. That said, refusing to answer by the December “deadline” was probably not the best strategy during bonus season. They just consider you unvaccinated anyway, and your name gets on an exception list for upper management.
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Everything is in place. They have nudged, reminded and even warned these people. Conditions for employment change at any time, and don't have to be in writing. If they don't allow smoking on the premises one day, they don't need to forewarn. They usually do, to be nice. If they ban drinking while on business trips, they can. If they require you have a measles shot, polio vaccine, and so on - they can do that too. It doesn't have to be agreed upon. The general assumption is that if you don't agree, you'll leave or be in violation of those conditions.
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You ain't too bright are you.
A.8. May employers ask all employees physically entering the workplace if they have been diagnosed with or tested for COVID-19?
Yes. Employers may ask all employees who will be physically entering the workplace if they have COVID-19 or symptoms associated with COVID-19, and ask if they have been tested for COVID-19. Symptoms associated with COVID-19 include, for example, fever, chills, cough, and shortness of breath. The CDC has identified a current list of symptoms.
An employer may exclude those with COVID-19, or symptoms associated with COVID-19, from the workplace because, as EEOC has stated, their presence would pose a direct threat to the health or safety of others. However, for those employees who are teleworking and are not physically interacting with coworkers or others (for example, customers), the employer would generally not be permitted to ask these questions.
Another Google lawyer tough guy
The company isn't entitled to medical testing information from its employees and if they take any action against anyone refusing to comply with testing, especially as it was never an agreed upon condition for employment, they will be facing a world of legal hurt. If you think temporary OSHA guidance will shelter them in court, wait and see. I'm not getting tested no matter who from HR tells me to, and if they take action against me for reserving my right to medical privacy, they will regret it. Stand with me against medical tyranny. This pandemic is over and their power grab is a bad look. If they're doing this for COVID and you enable it, they'll have the defacto right to do the same with every flu outbreak or other medical condition for which they decide these actions are appropriate.
I hope so.
Wipe them out, all of them.
There is a consequence model for everything that needs to be remediated. This will be no different IMO.
@jun Too generous, honestly. This company tolerates too much incompetence.
They will be coming out with a consequence plan shortly. Sounds like it'll be a 2-3 strike plan. This will also go for those that refuse to test.
I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't chance it.
I Meant to say….know if