Applied to 20+ internal job postings since 2020 and have not have one single screening. Forget about interview entirely, HR don't even bother to screen me ( qualified for 95% of jobs applied).
What are the plausible reason for being treated like this? I don't think the hiring manager gets to review at my resume at all.
"I’ve been here for over 15 years and for the past 4 have been told several times that I can’t get an interview, even if I’m qualified, because I don’t live in a hub."
I've had the same experience, yet don't expect much sympathy here. Some don't believe this is happening, and other, who I assume are already in hubs, are fully on board with the location strategy.
The constructive termination theory is interesting. Sounds like this is “when an employee quits his or her job because the working conditions are intolerable, the resignation is legally regarded as a termination. Some examples include: Transfer to a distant branch or department” and “an employee must show that the employer intended to create or maintain intolerable working conditions”
With Charlie’s comments in the Q2 earnings call when asked how he plans on reducing headcount to be more inline with peers he said “based on the way they are doing things people will self select” which to me sounded like they are intentionally doing things in a way that will make people want to quit. So if they go from a nation wide employer to now only 9 locations that essentially forces anyone not in one of those cities to have no choice but to quit or move. I’ve been here for over 15 years and for the past 4 have been told several times that I can’t get an interview, even if I’m qualified, because I don’t live in a hub. So basically my current job will be my last here because they would be forcing me to move to get a job to further my career and that is not an option. Agree probably a long shot and likely geared more toward protected class offenses but still something that caught my attention.
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None of that applies to location strategies. Closing whole buildings and getting rid of real estate is more of a cost savings effort. Don't forget many states have at will employment, so you can be dismissed without any reason in those states. It would look bad for WF, but it is an option.
Their "Location Strategy" is getting real close to something called Constructive Termination. And that's illegal.
They've got to realize that.
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Nope. Still don't care and still treat others the way they treat me. I don't mind what others do but that doesn't mean I have to buy into it myself. Sorry Corporate America.
"The response I got was that nobody cared what I thought or didn't think because (in my early 50's) I was the past and the 20 somethings were the future and they did very much care."
Perhaps you understand now the need for DE&I sensitivity training?
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I was trying to get out of some DE&I thing last year and was telling someone that I don't care about other people's sexuality etc. and I just treat people as they treat me so there was nothing to be gained by attending.
The response I got was that nobody cared what I thought or didn't think because (in my early 50's) I was the past and the 20 somethings were the future and they did very much care.
Pretty much summed the whole thing up for me so now I do what I have to and avoid the rest. There's no point in fighting City Hall as they say.
I hope your emails don’t look like that. Business communication is not like texting as any grown up knows.
email the hiring manager,
you need to know someone
move on to another company.
Wells is all about DEI except at the senior executive level.....So, if your a straight white male, you need not apply...in that case DEI means Discrimination Exclusion and Inequity . Down vote all you want....you know it's true...and it will eventually cost the bank and shareholders (you) $$$$$.
What's this DE&I you guys speak so "highly" about? The last few questionnaire from the job app, is that what's referred here? I always answer truthfully on the application but only have the most essential work-related info on the teamworks profile. what am I missing?
Richmond - not a hub. Sorry.
WIMT has four strategic hub where postings may be listed - Minneapolis, Charlotte, St. Louis and Richmond.
There may be 9 hubs, but not all LOBs are using all 9 of them. There may be very little overlap, in fact, between two LOBs.
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There are 9 hubs. Period. Making sure this is clear.
Some business units may have specific hubs they will hire in which are usually on the job listing itself. Some you may see non hub cities listed because the manager is cutting and pasting info in the listing, or their LOB is trying to ignore location strategy. But even though the listing may still say Frederick, that is no one's hub - for example. Raleigh is another one you may see listed, but its not a hub despite what anyone may say. StL, Des Moines, Dallas area, San Francisco, Denver, Minneapolis, New York, Charlotte, Chandler AZ. Those are the 9 hubs.
"Location Strategies are nothing more than a layoff tool."
I'd argue they're an attrition tool, as well. Wells has a history of not promoting in place, and that meant posting out if you wanted a better title or more money. Location strategies are already preventing people from moving across lines of business. You might be in a hub with your current LOB, but if you're interested in a position within another LOB, you might have to contend with a completely different set of hubs. Not in one? You're SOL.
Shortsighted or by design? I have a hunch.
You need to go into Teamworks and edit your profile so that your DE&I answers match what they're looking for.
Trust me on this. It will give you an edge over other candidates who are similarly qualified. /serious
Much, much sooner than '23 for sure
@1wcr+1dMna7d9 Location Strategies are nothing more than a layoff tool. They start by not hiring in non-hub cities, then in '22 or '23, they'll lay off everyone who's not in a hub city. Saw it at BofA and other FI's....Chuckles and his clown-car bunch copy everyone else' playbook so you can expect it here.
Same thing happened to me until I found help rewriting my resume to bypass the automated denial systems companies use. Now I am getting interviews.
Not worth applying internally. Much easier to get a job externally and the salary increases are bigger.
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It is not M's location strategy. Its the bank's location strategy.
@1wcr+1dMna7d9 hub strategies have a lot to do with state and city tax cuts and incentives a company receives. They have to have most employees work that city in order to benefit from them though.
Think my non-hub city is the issue here. I will stop applying internally. Nothing against Mandy's location strategy but if anything the pandemic has taught us, we don't need a location strategy.
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@1pwn+1dMna7d9 most of the jobs I am hired for say there is a degree required and I am hired without one. They say they want a person with a PHD and then there is me.
@mcd+1dMna7d9 unless the hiring manager puts college degree in the Desired qualifications, having a degree is not a thing anymore.
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This is false, especially in tech. There are many people here who went the certification route instead of some overpriced school teaching out of date materials which still makes you pay for your own testing. Experience and aptitude trumps a piece of paper any day. I say this as someone who has hired many employees without a college degree. Certifications are almost always preferred. I’d rather have someone with the specific knowledge for the platform or technology being used rather than some blanket degree.
If you are in a non hub city, that would be why. The future for WF employees is in hubs. If you’re not in a hub, there is no future.
@1vnl+1dMna7d9, does bravely insulting strangers from an anonymous internet account give you the warm and fuzzies?
The hiring managers might already know who they want to hire. Sometimes it’s not what you know, it’s who you know. Also agree with the person who said to make you’re tailoring your resume for each job you apply to in order to highlight your most relevant experience.
non-hub city...yep
maybe you aren't as qualified as you think you are
Why don't you speak to the hiring manager directly?
If you are blindly submitting your resume to jobs and not tailoring it to each posting, you will likely never get past the keyword scans.
Do you work in a non-hub city?
Do you have a college degree? That's probably the single quickest yes-no box for screening.
If you don't have one, you obviously got your current job without one, but on paper, you're going to frequently lose out to other candidates that do have one. That's just how it is.
The other thing is how many jobs you've applied for. 20+ jobs to a recruiter in a relatively short time looks like you're applying for anything under the sun instead of thoughtfully/selectively applying for roles that are a great fit.
Lastly, have someone unbiased look at your resume. You might think it looks ok but there's gotta be -some- reason for that many denials.
Hiring managers can review any application they want to, and ask the recruiter to prescreen. Done it many times.
Do you check all the right boxes regarding DE&I metrics...?