Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Share my experience (continuelly updated, feel free to ask me questions)

Hope this helps for those in a similar situation and I appreciate if you can give some kind words.

  • 2021 PADP result: NSI
  • 2020 PADP result: excellent
  • Division: research and technology
  • Years with XOM: 4~6 years
  • Age: 30+ year old
  • Asian, Male
  • Totally shocked and unprepared for the 2021ranking result.
  • Felt severe depression in the following week. Would wake up in mid night due to a feeling of sadness.
  • Given a week by HR to consider and choose between PIP or PIL.
  • Despite anger and a strong urge to quit, eventually selected PIP as it sends less shock waves to my life and the people around me.
  • Meanwhile, have spent every night and weekend working on job hunting. It's a lot work as I haven't done it in years. Feeling exhausted.
  • About 10 applications submitted so far.
  • Received interview invites from 2 companies.
  • First company sent a negative notice after two rounds of interviews.
  • Waiting for the result from the second company after two rounds of interviews... if passed, then there should be a final round...
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Post ID: @OP+1ckeuN5g

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I hate the new HR rules that allow huge swings in performance.

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Post ID: @3kbx+1ckeuN5g

We probably know each other; honestly, I expected to get the axe this year, but somehow made it through this round.

My opinion, it was a numbers game, and had less to do with your relative/absolute performance and more whether they wanted to continue/pursue the research programme you were involved with (i.e., not really a PIP, but more of a layoff).

No real idea though. Best of luck/wishes for whatever you decide to do.

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Post ID: @2cyr+1ckeuN5g

Nothing to do with your performance, most likely it's because they dont need as many people in your department now, or it's because each manager needs to meet the NSI quota and your manager probably cannot afford to lose some of your collegues so he had to choose you.

With all the politics going in this company really there is no need to feel joyful if you rank high and sad if you rank low, important thing is to build up a skillset and reputation so that you can easily jump ship and say bye .

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Post ID: @2vrn+1ckeuN5g

@fha+1ckeuN5g Had always been told we are ONE BIG EM FAMILY! ROFL. The hostility tickles!

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Post ID: @2cdg+1ckeuN5g

A shame that ethnicity seems a focus in responses.
That does not reflect on the list provided by OP.
Hmm.

At any rate - EM is a Commodity company now.
Wheat sheaves and pork bellies.
If you have any interest in STEM career - Get Out!

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Post ID: @1hby+1ckeuN5g

Years ago Asians were not being promoted and fell in ranking. They were told that although they were technically great and did excellent work they were too quiet. Their white counterparts were more vocal and loud. The whites were arrogant and boisterous which impressed the supervisors. The whites played the game very well. This group of asians successfully sued exxonmobil and won a substantial settlement. Some of the asians got promotions and some left with the money the got. I work with a show off asian that plays the game. He will tow the company line and drink the kool aid. He got excellent this year. In my experience there have been many minorities that have been marginalized and discriminated at exxon. I have seen whites that have no experience or expertise in the role they are placed in. Meanwhile experienced minorities were not given the chance to use their expertise and excel. This is common theme at many oil companies. So don't feel bad you did nothing wrong. Remember one companies supposed trash is another's treasure.

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Post ID: @1eyp+1ckeuN5g

Excellent-> Good over here

It was out of your hands and you should be proud of what you did with a clear conscience.

You’ll look back one day and find yourself better for this experience. All the best!

  1. S also looking for a job
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Post ID: @1mjq+1ckeuN5g

Asian American here, was PIL'd last year at 29. At our second to last meeting supervisor got my name confused with another Asian guy he worked with, who wasn't even on our team. It was pretty cringey.

I know how you felt. Not only was I laid off but I was in quarantine the entire year. It was not fun for my mental health. I took a road trip to the Rocky Mountains and that was fun.

Anyways, it gets better. I left XOM with a 120K salary and took up another one at 145K. Life is so much better in the new company. And it's in medical too, so it feels much more purposeful. Less lying all around too.

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Post ID: @1etm+1ckeuN5g

Hey people get a grip. You got nsi'd... so what. Take the 3 mo and look for a new job. ExxonMobil is not the only employer. And guess what? ExxonMobil is not special.

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Post ID: @1ggb+1ckeuN5g

@OP, I echo what other people said, you can consider to convert to PIL and solely focus on job hunting. It takes preparation to get a job, especially a good one. Feeling exhausted won't help you to land a good offer.

You have 3 month pay, after that you will have unemployment benefit. Don't stress out.

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Post ID: @rzv+1ckeuN5g

@ofp+1ckeuN5g Fu-k you

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Post ID: @fha+1ckeuN5g

ExxonMobil is littered with unconscious bias. Your story is so sad. However, you will absolutely land on your feet and be better off. (I agree with most commenters. PIP sounds abusive and likely to leave emotional scars. After hearing these stories, I’ve already pre-thought my response when I get there.)

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Post ID: @lgw+1ckeuN5g

On a relative basis, a much higher percentage of Asian employees are being NSI'ed in the chemical company this year as well regardless of their actual talents and performance.

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Post ID: @spi+1ckeuN5g

Based on what I can deduce from various conversations, there is much more than 50% chance that someone like you will pass PIP this year. But I think the “stigma” will stay and will be limiting future opportunities that were already limited.
There is no question that Asian males of East Asia origin are stereotyped as “technical” / individual contributors.

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Post ID: @zfs+1ckeuN5g

Sometimes its good to just take a vacation where you can relax and not think about work for a while. Then come back refreshed and plan out a strategy for the next phase of your career and life.

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Post ID: @otj+1ckeuN5g

You still can take PIL during PIP. It's written in the rules when you select option (even after 1 week notice). Looking for a job is a full time job, don't wasteyour time, energy and mental health trying to pass PIP. If you have ML or software engineering skills you should be able to find a higher paying job in Tech fully remotely or Austin. Good luck!

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Post ID: @tvb+1ckeuN5g

Take the PIL. Hey! Did they give this acronym to sound like PILL? Lol that is funny. Take the PIL and be gone!

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Post ID: @uvm+1ckeuN5g

Same in Annandale, very corrupt, lots of employees being blinded. What’s our future here.?

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Post ID: @qcg+1ckeuN5g

Exactly the same situation for me. Unprepared and totally shocked.

The only difference is that I chose PIL and just focus on job hunting. Finding new job is a job.

Good luck to both of us.

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Post ID: @rdm+1ckeuN5g

Caught slacking eh! No pity from me! Take the PIL and get out!

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Post ID: @ofp+1ckeuN5g

The sadder it gets - there is only looking up now.
Same as it ever was.

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Post ID: @wbk+1ckeuN5g

@kve+1ckeuN5g Same here. Ranked Outstanding last year and Outstanding again this year. I will be leaving as soon as I can.

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Post ID: @lvg+1ckeuN5g

Got PIP’d this year (with almost 0 actual reasoning/clarity) after getting excellent last year as well. Had 7 days to decide and was presented with a very very subjective PIP checklist. Nothing makes sense right now with no closure and definitely in a very dark mental place as well. But hopefully it gets better OP take care of yourself! I’m sure many others are in the same position and this is an absolute disgusting way the company conducts its performance process

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Post ID: @mwm+1ckeuN5g

To all Asians in this situation - pls don't dare you to contemplate to "quit (suicidal)" - you worth a hundred times more than EM. Stay strong!!!

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Post ID: @tnk+1ckeuN5g

@OP Asian here, too. I feel your pain and disappointment (pls don't). I was out in February - outstanding KO's feedback, outstanding reputation, extremely capable (not a boast). I sincerely suggest - 1. Take a deep breath to recognize that it's not your fault; 2. Contemplate what you would ask your manager to set up for you (concrete and measurable items for PIP); 3. Take stock and gather your thoughts to prepare for the worst (where and what industry will be your next endeavor - think outside the G&O); 4. Put both your PIP and "escape" plans in motion. You're young and valuable. It's only a matter of time to find your proper place. Don't lose any sleep (not healthy). Stay strong, and, best wishes to you. my friend!!!

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Post ID: @npm+1ckeuN5g

Asian here as well, NSI'd. I did not see that coming because I had above-and-beyond PADP review with excellent KO's. My manager simply said everybody did great and someone needs to be NSI'd. But why me?

I initially signed the PIP and waited for my PIP laundry list. Every night, I woke up in the middle of the night, feeling sad, and suicidal. Days passed and when I saw my PIP laundry list, it seemed like it was designed to make me fail. Right there and then, I called HR who told me that I could still convert to PIL which I did. Those were the worst days of my life, never had I thought of ending my life because of a job. Fast forward, I am now gainfully employed by another top Fortune company and enjoying work now more than ever before.

Whatever you decide in the coming days or months, have fortitude. You will make it through.

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Post ID: @qhs+1ckeuN5g

PIP’s now have zero to do with performance. Don’t take it personal. We’re all on the list, it’s only a matter of time. Don’t stress. You’ve got this! Pave the way toward a better future. You deserve so much more!

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Post ID: @znp+1ckeuN5g

I would say relax a little first. This happens everywhere. The negative feedback you received from one of your early applications probably happened because the potential employer felt the stressful energy. It happen to me too. When I decided that it was time to go, I missed a couple of interviews. I relaxed, and then got a good one at 10% more. As far as XOM, well.... I don't know. Even if you pass the PIP, the record will limit any potential future opportunities at XOM. Again, it is not the end of the world. It happens everywhere. Once you get another job, your stress, blood pressure, and sleeping will improve (as it did in my case). Go through the PIP but don't let it stress you out because then you will be unemployed for a while.

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Post ID: @ibp+1ckeuN5g

Reading your message just make me angry. I am ranked outstanding this year but I will be leaving as well. Hang in there

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Post ID: @kve+1ckeuN5g

Hang in there. EM is morally corrupt. Do not spend mental energy dwelling on the why, just know the system is corrupt. Focus on the road ahead and getting out. It's hard to job hunt and interview after a few years, however it will come back to you. Ask for feedback for the ones you don't get through. You will get there. Wishing you the best of luck.

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Post ID: @zvk+1ckeuN5g

What was reason for your NSI

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Post ID: @mtj+1ckeuN5g

Hang in there, this is not your fault. This has nothing to do with your individual skills which is quite obvious from your excellent ranking in 2020. This has everything to do with this corrupt corporation and the way it has chosen to go about terminating its employees. It treats humans as if we are a piece of equipment that has reached its lifetime use and throws us on the scrap heap. But since they can not do that they choose the lowest cost method to get rid of us, they re-engineered the ranking system allowing one to go from excellent to NSI in one cycle and then they PIP us which is impossible to pass so we take a 3.month salary PIL and we are gone. You my friend, are just the young employee Asian ingredient in TGs cauldron of NSIs this go around to keep the Corporation out of EEOC lawsuits. Now is a difficult time for you, keep your head up, you will find employment, your young, and none of this is your doing, and leaving this company behind will be a blessing.

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Post ID: @knw+1ckeuN5g

Asian here as well. Always felt discrimated while I was at XOM.

If I were you, I would have just taken the money and look for another job. Now that you have chosen PIP, may be just focus on looking for another job while getting paid - instead of trying in vain to "improve" your performance.

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Post ID: @hhk+1ckeuN5g

I’m male Latino 30+ years and 8-10 years of experience. Fell from Excellent to Very Good because I needed to advertise my work better. Basically do more ppts instead of making sure I was enabling the business. Left the company right after 👍

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Post ID: @hyd+1ckeuN5g

Best of luck to you. 15-year Asian-American here, and this company has failed to support Asians in my view. I’ve been repeatedly assessed in the upper categories in managerial positions for multiple years, and the first thing out of people’s mouths when they mention me is still “technical”. Sorry but I can’t code worth a sh-t and haven’t been able to for a decade or more.

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Post ID: @kym+1ckeuN5g

Good luck to you. I hate hearing situations like yours where the impact of those results are so detrimental to ones wellbeing.

I had my number of rejections and no responses as well but if you stay on it you'll find something.

Take relief that you're on your path out of this environment.

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