Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

If it were me: I would consider getting a lawyer for the following scenario

We have an employee in our department who is considered “protected” because he/she filed an official complaint against management. The complaint was investigated and found to be without merit, though I don’t necessarily have confidence in that process. Having said that, this “protected employee” is very difficult to work with, complains about everything and everyone, stirs up a lot of trouble p, is very temperamental, and has backstabbed pretty much everyone in the department. His/her work is as good as anyone else’s, but this employee has a terrible attitude and is not a team player. Not exaggerating at all, could go on and on - this person is the bad apple who is ruining the whole bunch.

Everyone else would be considered generally good employees with strengths and weaknesses, but overall nothing bad stands out about them. I would consider them to be 3s or higher. This past week, several good employees were let go and the “protected employee” remains employed. This same employee has survived the last 2 rounds of layoffs as well.

IMO - the laid-off employees should take legal action because WFC unfairly protects those who complain. I get the opposite side, which is that WFC got in trouble for firing whistleblowers. But why should good employees have no protection when other employees appear to have blanket protection simply because they filed a complaint.

If it were me, I would look in to getting a lawyer.

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Post ID: @OP+1bxk4wJd

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Wells Fargo goes way overboard on everything.

  1. Fire all the Whistleblowers! Oh no - they caught us: Don’t fire ANYONE who files a complaint!
  1. No bl---s or with enough talent for the C-Suite! Oh no - they caught us: Tie all the other managers’ pay to diversity! And let’s shove it down the throats of all employees who have no say in hiring!
  1. Eight is great! Open accounts with the homeless if you have to. Oh no - they caught us: Let’s lay low for a couple years: 2021 - Cross-selling is back in a big way but now we’re calling it “deepening client relationships”! The Feds will never catch on😉.
  1. Spend through the roof on executive pay, executive travel, stock buybacks, open-seating buildings and failed executive pet projects. Oh no- we owe billions in fines to the government: Raise the CEO’s pay and create a bunch of new executive positions, but cut staff deeply and callously. And no more flowers for deceased people!
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Post ID: @2smk+1bxk4wJd

Few of us work under any contract, so it’s tough (not impossible) to win a layoff lawsuit.

The burden of proof , a preponderance of the evidence, isn’t high in a civil suit, but the proof does fall on you. Good luck to anyone taking on the Wells Fargo army of attorneys.

BTW, Charlie and his minions have contracts with many protections and guarantees. The irony this situation.

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Post ID: @2cmg+1bxk4wJd

Lots of different opinions here, but what I hear most is all fear-based: take the easy road, take the safe road, you can’t win so don’t try, WFC has their bases covered (when was the last time WFC ever had their bases covered????), be a good boy/girl and say thank you for kicking you to the curb….

Not me. I would get more pleasure from shoving their arrogance down their throat than I would get from their paltry parting gift. If you get laid off when you don’t think you deserve it, and you walk away quietly and politely: than maybe there is a reason they are letting you go. Not guts, no glory.

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Post ID: @vbk+1bxk4wJd

Your example is apples and oranges. different company, different circumstances, different times. OP here has nothing but speculation. Your friend clearly had facts and evidence that lead to a different outcome.

If your point is that sometimes david can ki-l goliath... well yeah, that's true. People also do win the lottery. But it's not the soundest financial advice to bankrupt yourself buying lottery tickets.

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Post ID: @1ruk+1bxk4wJd

You really don't know what happened or is happening. You also have no idea if your co-workers are unproblematic and average or high performers. You are on the outside looking in and speculating on matters that don't concern you. It sounds like you don't like this person and you are upset that this person remains employed and folks that you do like were laid off.

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@1eke+1bxk4wJd

Interesting comment. Although pointing out racism and power hungry inept managers isn’t bigotry in my book.
Lots of entitled folk at wells are discriminating against others. And most are Ebonics speakers. Or Elton John types.

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Post ID: @1cca+1bxk4wJd

Guess that racist shoe must pinch a wee bit on the other foot, hey @1bps+1bxk4wJd?

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Post ID: @1eke+1bxk4wJd

My POC racist manager has fired most white men while giving her fellow POCs and same s-x havers more duties. It seems you need to be a ho-o or a POC these days to survive and advance.

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Post ID: @1bps+1bxk4wJd

The best lawyer to get is Johnnie Cochran.

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Post ID: @1obv+1bxk4wJd

Protected based on how you look is everything MLK died fighting for.

Thanks to the woke children for destroying the Dream for the rest of us.

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Post ID: @sau+1bxk4wJd

I have a friend who did not take the severance package from another large publicly held company. She filed for age discrimination, and won. Everyone told her she would never win, but she won enough to move to a seaside town and buy a beautiful home. I don’t listen to the naysayers. The big companies want you to think they’ve got you over the barrel, but they sc--w up all the time. I would put a good attorney up against WFC legal any and every day of the week.

If these 2 employees have years of good performance reviews: I would ask for them to be compared to the protected employee’s performance reviews. Would also request records from WFC regarding how many employees, who have filed complaints against WFC, have been let go vs those employees who have not filed complaints. Easy case.

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Post ID: @vbk+1bxk4wJd

All “protected” employees in my area are racial minorities and people who enjoy s-x with someone if their own s-x.

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Post ID: @fid+1bxk4wJd

A couple of people in my group went to HR and filed complaints against their manager. They were in the first group let go. That manager was not able to give them the news, but that was the only result of their action. They were not protected.

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Post ID: @uni+1bxk4wJd

Just like minorities could drink on the job and still not get fired. Same for getting hired

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Post ID: @wxy+1bxk4wJd

OP. I hope you will have an opportunity to sue soon

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Post ID: @bzo+1bxk4wJd

What exactly is the legal basis for this course of action ?

Equal Protection from an employer ? Really ?

An attorney would need a lot more than anecdotal evidence

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Post ID: @qyw+1bxk4wJd

Because the squeaky wheel always gets the grease. The trouble makers never get the ax. That's WF for ya!

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Post ID: @xns+1bxk4wJd

It's so not worth your time or trouble to hire an atty in the case of displacement like this. you have to forfeit your severance - since to get it you have to sign a waiver that says you won't sue and only have 45 days to sign it, and then you have to find and pay an atty that will take the case. No atty would take something like what's described here on a contingency basis... because everything is speculation on the part of the onlooker.

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Post ID: @tcx+1bxk4wJd

Sure you would

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