This past week I witnessed FTE's and consultants kicked to the curb or dumped in other groups with no warning. For the consultants, it's not a big deal, we can easily bring our knowledge and skills to the other companies. For the FTE's it's life changing. Loyal hardworking FTE's were dumped or shoved into other groups without notice. I've worked for dozens of companies, but have never been so emotionally impacted by an experience. This really made me sick. Good luck to all of the FTE's stay strong!
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do you say agile acceptance criteria or do you mean something else?
Good luck with your automated testing when they can’t even keep an environment running. You better learn to do it manually. Unfortunately the folks who could teach you that are gone. Sucks to be you.
It's a demoralizing environment where the workers get shafted and he senior managers get rich. The employees who are being cut, are the ones who drive the profits. My advice, slow down, play d-mb, non-engage. Make them work for it.
Our team was hit late last year. We are told we aren't going to get hit again. If your leadership can't tell you that, then you should be worried. Every team will get hit at least once.
@ypa lol, u are new to this. That sounds great! Automated testing. Acceptance criteria, PO, scrum teams. Yea, watched a few large players get burnt buying into it. How's your Architectural Runway? Quarterly code release? Have you ever written a test script? Oh let me guess, you are talking about Selenium. You will always need manual testing.
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@ndi, I'm afraid you are grossly misinformed when you stated that code will be promoted to Prod after only unit testing. Obviously that would be disastrous.
The Agile model being implemented in WF calls for rigorous Unit Testing. That is followed by Automated testing to ensure that the unit tested code meets the acceptance criteria agreed to by the scrum team and product owners.
Thereafter, the product owners (Business) will sign off by agreeing that Acceptance criteria is met.
Finally, you have true User Acceptance testing to be performed by the user community. All these happen before code is deployed to production.
There is no room for QA Analysts that used to do manual testing. Acceptance criteria related testing is automated and QA Analysts without automation skills are no longer needed.
The rough scheme I described above has been preached for almost 2 years. QA folks that did not retool can hardly blame management alone.
Good luck to those that were displaced.
Unit testing does not work outside of software dev. They will end up testing all of the deployed code, before they can release it. I'm speaking from years of experience!
There is notice...60 days of it, and you get paid for not working during that period of time.
Wow, that couldn't have been said better. You hit so many points that I feel and I believe others do as well.
There are many of us who have not been kicked to curb yet, but who are looking to exit soon. Actively interviewing and sick of the fear driven culture. You just can't run a company like this, but they think they can.
As an FTE survivor, I feel demoralized and numb. We have a ton of work to do, tight deadlines, and need to stay focused. But I just feel no motivation. They threw out QA, as they promised that they would. Because they said only unit testing matters. If the unit tests pass, then of course no need for any further testing, code is production ready. As DEV, I disagree. I have seen many defects found by QA in my career.
As this no more deep testing moves forward, in order to go to production quicker, I feel more and more inclined to move my money out of Wells Fargo. I feel there is increasing risk of major flaws moving to production. It’s only a metter of time before something bad happens and we make the news in a negative way.
I have never felt more disengaged as I have now, with more and more team members being thrown out like trash, more and more work being piled on, constant reorgs, and now soon the pressure of return to office commute. They say stress is a silent ki---r, affecting your heart. This place has become toxic, and I no longer care about my work.
Besides, they said no matter how hard you work, you will still be ranked as average or meets expectations. So why bother putting in any extra effort? Laying off a bunch of folks and dumping the work on the rest is not going to work well. I can’t be the only one feeling demoralized. The temptation is there, to look the other way when you see something wrong, and let it go live. It’s ok, since we dumped the QA, it’s not important to be sure it is correct. That’s the message our management is sending, code quality is not important. Only speed to market is important.