Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Everyone needs to research Charlie's history

For those wondering why all these layoffs are happening, it is worth researching our CEOs ("Chainsaw Charlie") career history. And, remember, that he announced when he came on to WF that we were "too top heavy" and had far more employees than our competitors (i.e. JPM, BOA, etc.). From day 1 we knew he would be cutting people. The way it's happening is also not something new. For those who were legacy Wachovia & First Union, the "hub" structure is a familiar one. And, one that failed. Is also important to note that part of "ramping down" staff will include selling businesses (already happened/happening), and closing ~1,400 branches (some never to reopen post-COVID, like rural ones). He has a target to reach (I keep hearing ramping down 30ish% in the US and using India & Philippines employees a lot more). All of this is about cutting costs to make shareholders & regulators happy.

I've been with this firm over 25 years, am a part of what some would call a "risk & control" group and we are going through spans & layers now. My management has stated our layoffs won't begin until 2022. They will "centralize" first and then layoff those who were moved to "central teams" as they will be... you guessed it "too top heavy". Anyone in an operational support type role will be at risk.

Even though my entire career has been with WF, I am actively applying externally. I moved for this firm a few times (some they paid, one I paid due to personal choice of location). I won't do it again. And, yes, I would get a nice severance. But, my family's security and my sanity are worth far more. I used to be proud to work for this firm, loved coming to work, wanted to work hard and do good things. This is now gone. So, I'm going to take my 25+ years experience somewhere else. Look for new adventures and career path. Life is too short to be miserable. I suggest anyone who is feeling the same to get out. Get out now before the market is flooded with the same talent.

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Post ID: @OP+1bIsImLP

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@xuh+1bIsImLP

So the only tolerable people are those that YOU deem "normal". Got it. Talk about holier than thou. You really hate diversity of thought, don't ya?

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Post ID: @1psk+1bIsImLP

If you didn’t research Chainsaw’s history back when he was hired, and if you didn’t make appropriate plans from that day, then you are a very in-self-aware person.

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Post ID: @jsn+1bIsImLP

@hlt+1bIsImLP. Deal with it!

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ID: @fxx+1bIsImLP

With your grasp of English or lack thereof, we know what your agenda is and American workers do not approve.

We know where the dead weight is and where they sit.

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@sge+1bIsImLP

Agree. Street is happy and this investor approves Charlie laying off. I am an employee and I see dead weights everywhere.

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Post ID: @fxx+1bIsImLP

If you were the board, would you want someone with new ideas right now? Probably not. Wall Street has said what it's looking for to reward the stock. Get the headcount down, fix the expense ratios, and keep the lights on. When those are in good order, then you can take some risks with new ideas. For now, Scharf fits the bill.

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Post ID: @sge+1bIsImLP

Following the pack, who appear at the time, to have a successful formula is what keeps getting these banks in trouble. It’s all good: until it turns bad. Then they all start scrambling like rats.

Anyone remember the financial crisis in 2008? Some brain surgeon at WCHV was worried we were missing out on all that subprime mortgage business. Making money, but not as much we could! So they bought Golden West Financial, which is what eventually led to WCHV’s demise. Foreclosure abuses, poor internal controls, conflicts of interest between research and investment banking, robo-signing, selling toxic debt, misrepresenting investments, conning regulators - these bank leaders all follow each other around like lemmings.

Charlie Scharf making $25 million per year and hasn’t had one original thought yet.

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@ rlv+1bIsImLP

Problem is, Chuckles will be long gone before that happens, which are these people’s history.

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@cvn+1bIsImLP

There is a good reason to run it all yourself instead of outsourcing to someone that doesn’t care about your customers but are only in it to bill you.

These people will find that out when it crashes around them like it did at Chase, BoA, etc.

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Post ID: @tyu+1bIsImLP

Oh yes, we must become just like JPM and all others, cuz Dimon is your idol Dude. Gross.

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Post ID: @kdt+1bIsImLP

Charlie history was the reason he is hired and paid well. Get a grip!

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Post ID: @fjx+1bIsImLP

The metric that keeps getting missed in all this discussion is the % of every dollar spent by WF that is salary and benefits. These other banks need just as many heads to run their banks but they outsource functions more that WF. WF has been mired in the 50% range on this metric and the competitors are in the middle to high 30% range. If you outsource something and the vendor has 5,000 people doing it they don't count as WF FTEs. WF having 250,000 employees vs a JPM with 210,000 is just one number to look at. Legacy WF folks will remember the "run it like you own it" philosophy which contributed to this do it all yourself attitude.

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Post ID: @cvn+1bIsImLP

A lot of the "risk & control" has already been dealt off to the various LOB. When the LOB do their cuts, those are/will be the first to go.

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Post ID: @zxc+1bIsImLP

Yeah it’s totally normal to come to a layoff site and write a paragraph about how the company actually needs layoffs, and actually you’re so enlightened that you don’t even think about layoffs. Also gotta let people know how good of a worker you are.

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@adl+1bIsImLP

You must think every opinion is "holier than thou" if that's what you got from that post. Get over yourself. There's people in this world that have differing opinions on these things, and believe it or not, that's a good thing.

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Post ID: @sgs+1bIsImLP

Pssst the previous CEO said the same thing….

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Post ID: @rfi+1bIsImLP

For the 30+ million this a-s clown is making you would think he would have a few ideas on how to grow the business and use the people they have more efficiently (not just moving jobs to India) instead of just being LAZY and laying off people. How much talent does it take to tell your minions and sycophants to let x% of their staff go ?

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Post ID: @xna+1bIsImLP

All that holier-than-thou bs must be exhausting.

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Post ID: @adl+1bIsImLP

I hope all the good people/employees take their talent and experience elsewhere, to a well-run company who’s management values it’s customers and employees. To a company who values integrity.

Then I hope Wells Fargo crashes and burns, taking along with it Charlie and all the people who hired and/or supported him.

I will throw a party to celebrate.

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Post ID: @rlv+1bIsImLP

Good for you OP, but I'm not wasting my time reading up on the CEO. He's gonna do what he's gonna do, and I'll have no input either way, so why bother? The company DID get bloated over the last 10-15 years and we need to reduce headcount some. Maybe I'll be victim of the process, maybe I won't, but I'm not worrying about it because I don't control it. All I can do is be prepared and do the best job that I can. That way, whether I stay or go, I'm well positioned for success.

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Post ID: @xna+1bIsImLP

Great post. Thank you.

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Post ID: @ncd+1bIsImLP

Whoever they got as the new CEO would have done the same thing.

Wells does not need 1/3 of a million employees to run as a bank. The fact it got that bloated is the biggest joke of all.

Charlie is just doing what needs to be done. As a shareholder and employee I can’t argue with what he is doing. I am just wondering why it took this long.

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Post ID: @zxq+1bIsImLP

I knew that was his aim when I came here. They loathed him at BNY Mellon. When he was there, their layoff board was flooded like this one is now.
I had hoped that I would be spared, but nope. I wish everyone the best.

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Post ID: @pwe+1bIsImLP

Top Heavy?! Is that why they're hiring so many expensive former JPM executives? Because we need more expensive clowns, while the rank and file get laid off.

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Post ID: @rvl+1bIsImLP

The firm? This is a bank. Why do people call this "the firm?!" It's silly!

It's not a "Firm" it's a Zoo.

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