For those of us who will most likely have our telecommute agreements canceled, is there any legal recourse to this? Does anyone have any ideas?
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Chainsaw did this with Mellon bank as well, he is very anti WFH, although he is WFH even before COVID. Problem with in office work, is you have to take commute time, gas cost there and back into account when you are calculating your pay (personally - not official pay) to determine if the extra cost is worth it. In general I'm way more productive at home than at work. I start the day in a slightly groggy but pleasant mood WFH. Driving into work I arrived still groggy , stressed, and ticked off because other drivers are id--ts and drive dangerously. It cut an additional 1 - 1.5 hours off of my non work time each day, plus the added cost of gas, wear and tear, etc. Getting to finally WFH while my bosses and their peers had done so for years was like getting a raise. I do miss the comradery at the site, but I don't miss being constantly interrupted with questions from people I don't support but knew me as a SME. I also don't miss the jerks who blew through all their PTO, then came to work sick without a mask, and still thought it was good to come talk to me. The number of times "it's just allergies" only to follow a couple days later with everyone on that team off due to "allergies". Also the coffee sucked, and starbucks was too expensive. Forget your lunch at home, then go without or spend more money on lunch as compared to forgetting it on the kitchen cabinet, walking around the corner, and grabbing it. Sadly I do tend to eat lunch while working... when I'm at home but I balance that by being able to throw a load of laundry on to wash while a query is running or report updating. It's also nice to have my own bathroom that isn't destroyed by less than courteous coworkers who treat the site bathrooms horribly.
Me to manager: “I’ve accepted that I’m probably going to be laid off since I’m not near a hub and not willing to move.”
Manager: “Me too! I’m still trying to decide if I’m willing to move, though.”
True story.
Hard for leadership to see butts in chairs when they are laying off American workers and hiring in India. Is Chuckles moving his office to Bangalore?
They revoked all Telecommuter Agreements almost 2 years ago. They were already laying people off, and pulling others into the hubs via their "location strategy". The only reason people are still working from home today is because of COVID.
Remember the meetings when COVID first hit, when the exec's were all telling us that "this is not going to be the new normal" and "we're not happy about WFH".
There's a big disconnect between what the "leadership" wants, versus what the employees want. The leadership wants to see "butts in chairs", while the workers just want to be left alone to do their jobs in the most hassle-free manner possible.
Read the agreement, it states they can remove it at any time (unfortunately).
You sound jealous. Sorry your boss don’t let you telecommute, dude.
@2hvy. You have an obvious bias against those telecommuting. I know for a fact that a lot of them work harder than the people in the office who are busy gossiping, going on coffee breaks every hour, taking two hour lunches, etc.
Are you worried that if you go back into an office leadership will know how useless you are as a worker? Yet another person posting on this site who wants to sit around and get paid to do nothing.
I wasn't talking about the CEO. I was talking about the average manager that is WFH while their reports are in office.
If you have an Accommodation agreement and they try to cancel your work from home agreement, you have a lawsuit for an ADA violation.
If you are just working from home for a non medical reason, that’s another story, unfortunately. But they’ll have a hard time getting good young talent because they expect that.
@1xcw what a horrible example.
Charlie never paid his dues, a family member got his resume in front of Dimon who hired him the same day. Then he told Dimon the job wasn't challenging so Dimon promoted him.
Dude never once paid his dues, he just relied on family and whining to get ahead.
May be "fundamentally unfair" but it's also the way working has ALWAYS been. Big boss hanging out in the air conditioned trailer while construction guy does back breaking labor in the sun, just as an example. If it makes you feel any better, most big bosses started at the bottom of the ladder working in the hot sun also, and they know exactly what it's like.
spolied brats!! Oh no, i have to go work in the office, waaaaaaaa!!!
Never had or needed an agreement. Nothing there to cancel!
Work from home agreements are finished. It may have been an “agreement” before but those days are over. What a brilliant move, Chuck. Top talent is going to give you two middle fingers and you will be stuck with mediocre employees with no other choices but to do as you order. Competitors are snatching up best employees right and left.
If they move your work location more than 40 miles from your house, then that's considered a material change to your job, making you eligible for severance.
Hahaha, no. It's fundamentally unfair and discriminatory that some are allowed to work remote and others in comparable roles are not. My boss was, is allowed to work remote but everyone else was not (precovid). The double standards are sick, to begin with.
Your legal recourse is severance. If you don't get severance then you might have a case.
What makes you think it's soon to be cancelled?
Slim chance of winning, since most are at will employees.
Read over the dates and if the agreement is an actual contract or just a guideline.
Ironically, Charlie sure as he77 has a contract