I’m currently looking for a new job and was considering Verizon, so I’m an outsider looking in. Is the union really going against their members wishes with working at home? This must be a terrible atmosphere to work under! A union is supposed to be there for their members.
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Yes, it does!
The union is completely useless! They think they can’t be replaced or Job is protected by technology clause if they sit in a building or report to garage. The union should have gotten the employees trained in high tech, they did this to themselves. VZ spent money in blue jeans and d-mb union is too stupid to use it. Welcome to the world of assembly lines and micro management to the extreme.
The union votes for the union and when that aligns with it's members everything is great. When it doesn't they try and give excuses on why it is worth the sacrifice for the greater or longer term good.
did I forget to point out that the OP is upvoted quite a bit?
@1azb+1b3ixusI: you're self-admittedly pro-union. you're claiming somebody's tampering with the up/down votes on two of your posts. And, there's a third, obviously pro-union post that's been obviously, artificially upvoted ( 51 reactions (+46/-5)
Post ID: @1qxc+1b3ixusI as of the time I'm typing this). You've ignored this post, and it's obviously manipulated status entirely. This post begins with, "No one has given you a serious response, troll or not, so I’ll give it a swing." There have been multiple, serious responses in this thread both pro and anti union. There's also an earlier post berating responders for not replying correctly.
What I'm thinking, based on what I see is- You're The Downvote Dude (and probably the Derpgeezer as well), and you're manipulating and directing this post to get the results you want. I think there was a thread a few weeks back that accused the OP of the same thing... Was that you too?
@1hls+1b3ixusI
I was the poster of the comment about the anti union troll's up/down vote manipulation. I was also the poster of the comment that starts with " People have gotten used to working from home" . I posted those comments last night about 8 pm and I can assure I have not been on this page again since right now. I see one comment has a +76/-82 and the other +1/-42. Obviously somebody has a lot of free time on their hands, but it ain't me.
The guy complaining about upvote manipulation is manipulating is own comment
@1ezh+1b3ixusI Check the post id! I haven’t seen much repeating here!
No one has given you a serious response, troll or not, so I’ll give it a swing.
Working for Verizon as a union employee gives great benefits, great pay, and a solid retirement. Those are the good things and are the reason you get members with 20 plus years.
The bad things! The union has no flexibility…on anything! They take any question as a personal attack on them, it’s an attitude of take it or leave it. They listen to what gets them votes, not fairness. Some of the older ones act like we’re in the 1950’s; racism, misogyny, old world views, etc, etc.
They’re fighting members on work from home not because it will protect the job, but because they make money per office that’s open. Work from home is what the majority of their members want. The union is attacking anyone who says otherwise They’ll make claims we’re being anti-union. It’s a way for them to get people to hate you! I’ve seen them go after people calling them in the closet, racist, and other disgusting things which generally isn’t true. All this while protecting the people who actually are racist, homophobic, etc, etc
Would I get rid of them, no! Do I think they need to modernize, he-l yes!
20 plus years and looking forward to retirement.
Company's take on giving your boy Hanz solo 40 million golden parachute and you clowns says nothing..... you throw your proxies away and ask stupid questions during his webcasts you fight your colleagues over peanuts and your executive team sees no inequality whatsoever.
Verizon’s board opposes both measures. Giving the company more power to recoup executive bonuses “would allow for a clawback of compensation without taking into account an executive’s personal culpability,” it says in the proxy statement. New limits on executive pay could put the company at a competitive disadvantage, discourage the use of equity-based incentives, and increase risks for stockholders, it adds. The company wouldn’t comment further.
What competitive disadvantage the fact we put someone who was fired from ericson for corporate embezzlement and that company as a result paid 3 billion dollars. Fight for the right reasons ask Hanz if he personally creates corporate culture and if he thinks he is worth the 20 million yearly plus bonuses plus incentives free phones internet security detail etc ask him. In the whole world nobody has his 5G vision we are doomed japan, south korea and china already working on 6G
wake up people
Last person is full of union propaganda. Work from Home protects jobs, not send them away.
People have gotten used to working from home and some really like it. The problem is that if you’re working from home in NY the company can then decide to hire people from a right to work (for peanuts and no benefits) state or worse yet outsource your American job to India or the Philippines. So what you call the union not being nice to your feelings is actually the union trying to preserve you job.
What was I born yesterday? This is obviously the anti union troll who writes comments, replies to his own comments, and then upvotes/ down votes comments a dozen times. The union lives in your head rent free, troll!
OP- I think you're a troll, so I don't want to waste too much time with this. I'm going to post a copy from another thread that shows what I think of unions
Once upon a time, unions were beneficial in opposing bad practices by employers. Those days are long gone. They were made irrelevant by their own success. In fact, they were so effective that they had to get laws enacted requiring union membership to keep from losing members. In addition, they exaggerate the truth, and manufacture a mythological history that cultivated fear and hatred in order to keep members beholden to them.
The unions have found out that between union dues bribes and kickbacks, running a union is quite lucrative. They are afraid of losing the power and profits.
In the absence of real threats from the boogeymen and monsters they whipped up, the union busies itself with protecting unproductive and incompetent members...
This only scratches the surface... I could write a series of books on the history of unions, and how they have evolved into a highly tuned parasite that profits by hindering the progress and prosperity of business while entraping and enslaving it's membership.
The bottom line... I loath organizations that have little to no real purpose using fear and propaganda to control people and profit from them. In addition, I have very little respect for people who allow themselves to be controlled through fear and ignorance.
12 hours ago by Anonymous | 17 reactions (+12/-5)
Post ID: @1lxl+1b2hy1JD
Union members fight against societies best interests.
Take the job..... The Union will be sure you get a decent contract, with good wages, benefits, and retirement. The only thing is you have to work..... you can’t spend your day stating asinine threads on the intranet.
@tjq+1b3ixusI Verizon wants it, union is against it. Typical lie to twist the story for their benefit.
@red+1b3ixusI That’s a d-mb response!
Their business model is to have as many employees under their wing, in order to collect dues. If their members voted to decertify the union, which is in their right, they would be put out rather quickly. Like what Comcast did to the IBEW in Connecticut.
A better argument would be, “The CWA is a business and their not very good at it, so they need to be replaced”
Disclaimer: I take neither side on this issue, just want to get better responses.
Pretty sure the union members don't want to go back to the office and want to stay work from home yet Verizon feels different
A union is a business and businesses only care about themselves z