Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

HAHA! SEE?!! We beat Workday and IBM!!

Take THAT losers!!

(Don't pay attention to those five giants ahead of us please)

The bottom 7 on this list should be ripe for consolidation down to 2 or 3 entities...

But back to your point, it is well established that if you aren’t growing a business (segment) and/or are not #1 or #2 in a given market, you are NOT going to succeed long term. So it isn’t a question of if oracle will fail in the cloud market, it’s a question of when it will fail (excepting ERP and possibly one or 2 other saas apps)

Exactly, which proves that the hardware business is dying too (y-o-y decline revenue). In fact it could be argued that hardware is in far worse shape than cloud, because HW has already hit the death spiral phase. I.e., declining revenue -> existing customers lost to “safer” vendors -> hardware revenue declines further...

Yeah, all in all I’d say Oracle, as a whole, is pretty much fu**ed

Oracle is not going anywhere and they keep dreaming on the top three, this proof Oracle is dying, just depend on when.

Agreed, despite the fact that the ranking is silly as it aggregates the various types of cloud services together, eg, app/saas, plat/pass, and infrastructure. For instance, Oracle is a market leader in ERP and doing pretty well in HCM cloud services, but poorly in most other areas.

But back to your point, it is well established that if you aren’t growing a business (segment) and/or are not #1 or #2 in a given market, you are NOT going to succeed long term. So it isn’t a question of if oracle will fail in the cloud market, it’s a question of when it will fail (excepting ERP and possibly one or 2 other saas apps)

Oracle is not going anywhere and they keep dreaming on the top three, this proof Oracle is dying, just depend on when.