I was reading Zappos would pay employees 1 month of pay if they wanted to ever leave. Maybe Wells Fargo should offer something like this to employees. The idea is that you would pay those employees who bring negative vibes to the firm to leave and start over and not drag down the rest of the team. Anyway, how many people do you think would take it? would 2 months of pay entice some employees to leave. I personally think WF is a great place to work, i worked in telecom and i was changing jobs every year, it wasn't fun. Reading this board is just strange to me, who trashes their own company yet get their salary from the place. Like if you don't want to get laid off you shouldn't be trying to take down your own ship. Have the balls and be true to yourself and leave if think its better else where. I think something like 2 months of salary would be perfect to get rid of a lot of people who would do better else where.
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I would love to hear OP’s response to the well-written post directly below
I don’t want to see Wells Fargo fail. I work hard, make good money, and I have a lot of good friends here who need their jobs. Especially now. I don’t brag about it being a great company, after the last 5 years, but I try to be professional and constructive. I am neutral or positive at work, depending on the circumstances. Might be a little more outspoken with a glass of wine in my hand.
Having said that, I’m hoping we are hiring new employees who are not adding to the negativity. It is disturbing to me to see newer employees judging existing employees. OP could be better at setting a positive example for newer employees in this post. Especially since it is a post about improving positive vibes at the company, right?
OP If your intentions were good, and you want to be influential, I think it would be helpful to change your approach. Phrases such as “employees who bring negative vibes to the firm to leave” and “not drag down the rest of the team” and “who trashes their own company” and “you shouldn't be trying to take down your own ship” and “Have the balls” and “leave if think its better else where” and “perfect to get rid of a lot of people” are negative themselves. If you rub people the wrong way, then they will tune out your primary message.
That’s my input. They do offer classes at Wells Fargo about improving your communication style, both when writing and in person. I know a gal who took it and she learned a lot about herself that she honestly didn’t know. She was promoted a year later. Hopefully it’s helpful to OP and any employees who are trying to survive this difficult time at the firm.
Yap yap yap, complain, moan, call your employer names while comfortable at home hidden, but then of course act helpless and pathetic day in day out and don't find another place to work.
Reminds me of a new employee on our team who was overly confident. Earned confidence is good, but arrogance + ignorance is dangerous in our profession. She had the skills, but didn’t know how to apply them to the job. She often acted as if the training was beneath her. She thought she knew better than the more experienced people and was often disrespectful and tactless, even to the manager.
The best way I can describe her attitude is that it was some sort of miracle that the company had survived as long as it had before she got there.
We are in a very busy high-risk department. The system manual work-around are ridiculous, but unfortunately a way of life here. She didn’t want to be bothered. She first made a small error which our team caught before it did too much damage. She was smug about it and unappreciative of those who helped her manage it post-error. No humbling this gal. She made a second more expensive error, which she tried to blame on another employee. No responsibility taken.
The boss talked to her, trying to be fair but also to set firm expectations. The third error cost the firm more than 2 years of her salary. And she is gone. Honestly, I would rather be short-handed than have to deal with the full-of-themselves know-it-alls who think they are better than everyone else.
@twg Well said. Thank you for putting in to words what is hypocritical about this post, especially from a new employee with no experience in the financial industry. Speaking of ballsy.
To all the internet tough guys who say stop whining and quit.
Will do.
Enjoy the messed up pile of work I leave behind, because in my department, nothing works right, which is what I whine and moan about the most.
And also, internet tough guys, if you love it hear so much, then you probably can't see how messed up it is, and that means you may not be the best of the best.
Later.
Post ID: @ztv+18bBZbOi You post, then you agree with yourself, then you uptick yourself, then you call people who disagree with you crybabies and downtick them. You must work in our Ethics Department 😂.
Post ID: @ztv+18bBZbOi I watched you post and then immediately uptick yourself, so I’m not impressed with you either.
@ nhq, you're so dumb. Wrong as usual.
Just because people don't share the same negative attitude as everyone else, that makes them all the same.
Brilliant. No wonder you're still here and complaining about it. Other companies are smart and don't want you.
OP and Post ID: @skn+18bBZbOi and Post ID: @ziv+18bBZbOi all obviously the same person.
How do I know? Because they all have the same condescending attitude. One person. One narcissist who gets her kicks out of imposing her patronizing POV on people who never asked for it in the first place.
A typical narcissistic trait is to provoke people and then claim they were mistreated by the person they provoked.
She may or may not actually be an employee, but is definitely a troll.
All of you are a bunch of gutless crybabies and I agree with the OP.
Go somewhere else and b–ch moan about them later.
Replies are harsh because we have heard from this OP before. OP is wrapping their judgement and biases in supposed “helpful suggestions” to shame employees for not being pro-Wells Fargo during an obviously difficult time at the firm. OP can s— it.
Zappos has high employee satisfaction (from what I've heard) so I doubt they have a ton of detractors on staff. Makes it easy to pay folks a small amount to leave. They also likely a hefty queue of top talent ready to take the place of anyone who resigns. Wells can't say that.
Besides, Wells isn't looking to improve morale right now. (Too bad for us.) Their goal is to save as much money as possible long-term, and they're targeting business units and employees who are least profitable/most expensive. They'd rather pay more in severance if necessary to lay off who they want, when they want.
So, don't see this OP's suggestion as feasible, but still think some of these comments are pretty harsh.
My goodness, OP! Your undying loyalty to scandal-plagued Wells Fargo is truly awe-inspiring. I heard Madoff needs a personal assistant.
OP still thinks Nxivm is a great women’s mentorship program.
LOL!!!
I disagree with OP and Post ID: @ziv+18bBZbOi
I agree with every other reply on this thread.
OP agreeing with herself and downticking those who disagree 🙄. Unfortunately for OP, we are not fools.
I agree, OP. To answer your question, no one would. The negative posts just sit here wishing ill on the company and yet still collect a paycheck and hoping that the company fails because they're too chicken to leave on their own.
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adjective
not aware of or not concerned about what is happening around one.
Similar: unconscious unmindful insensible ignorant blind deaf unobservant disregardful
unconcerned impervious unaffected insensitive indifferent detached removed
The fact that you would choose Zappos as an example highlights your cluelessness. Zappos is the polar opposite of Wells Fargo.
Zappos is rated as a great place to work by more than 80% of it’s employees. They are known for their open and honest communication, transparency, humility, employee empowerment, corporate culture, and team building. They encourage their employees to provide extraordinary customer service (not take advantage of them), to be adventurous and creative, and to have fun.
No fraud, no arrogant senior executives, no customer abuse, no pressure on employees to meet sales goals, no firing of Whistle blowers, no laying off 25% of employees due to C-Suite mismanagement and greed, no cold evasive CEO, no penalties and fines from regulators, no ruined brand.
Your persistent lack of awareness and objectivity prevents your point-of-view from carrying any weight with most employees.
that would mean most of the company and no one would be here to work; place is toxic
You can reframe it, from time to time, but your message is always the same out-of-touch head-in the-sand gibberish.
What so-so performer would take that in a questionable job market? Current severance scenario is 60 days paid notice plus 8 weeks. Even if they cut down to 4 weeks, why would I take two months to voluntarily leave vs 60 days + 4 weeks?
The people who would take that offer are good performers who line up their next gig and then take the 2 month signing bonus to walk.