Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

"Dangerously ignorant advice from the guy who...chose to get Covid lmao. Covid infection has also been associated with the equivalent of an 8.5 point decline in IQ, if that wasn't apparent from his reasoning."

The man who had chosen to get covid (by travelling for pleasure and fun) to a covid hotspot in the summer had offered no advice, just personal opinion. He thinks that your IQ must not be that high, considering that you could not distinguish expression of personal point of view from advice. He also does not need to feel concerned by you prediction of the effects of COVID. He does take care of his health and wellbeing, which includes taking care of his brain, so this was never a concern while taking a calculated risk of getting covid. He also uses other cutting edge methods and tools to keep his immune system performing to what it has been designed to do - fight of infections. Rest assured, even if that piece of propaganda had any true in it, his IQ is high enough to allow getting through it 10x without it being noticable by an average American. He would have appreciated your concern, had it been a genuine one.
SARS COV 2 has no brain of its own, and yet it figured out how to mutate itself to increase the power of its spread. With that, the inevitable is coming anyway, and it is coming fast. He will be watching the unfolding of these events from his ocean view balconies (to which he travels in first class) and from which he delivers his work - thanks to the brainwashed and scared population staying scared at home, and making his awesome travels possible more than ever.
Happy 2021!

I would like direct line of sight for my team, but I have people in Georgia, Virginia, Iowa, Minnesota, Texas and Arizona and I’m not nearly tall enough for that.

@3hiv

That's actually hilarious. The tax revenue the federal government gets per capita from NY and CA pales in comparison to what those two states get back from the fed. Especially if you want to compare it to other states that don't need bail outs, just do a little research.

We are getting sick of bailing out California and New York. It gets really old...

@3uka+18Wky1wH

Another BS post about california from someone who can only grasp and repeat half-facts and nonsense.

And "chose" to get COVID - sure.

Dangerously ignorant advice from the guy who...chose to get Covid lmao. Covid infection has also been associated with the equivalent of an 8.5 point decline in IQ, if that wasn't apparent from his reasoning.

I would question the integrity of all the numbers reported (intentional and due to all sorts of errors), especially knowing that places like California that stayed on extended lockdowns since last spring seem to be hit the most when it comes to deaths. In the meantime, Florida that stayed way more open doesn't have as big of a problem because in the process more of the population got immune having been through it already. I believe that the approach of Florida was more sensible and effective. People got exposed and got more herd immunity in Florida in the summer, when the flu virus (that causes a slightly lower but equally significant amounts of deaths each year) and had better access to live savings treatments than those now in California, where they now can't due to fighting both covid and the other flu viruses.
Had those low risk population members who had wanted to take their chances in getting natural immunity to covid were allowed to do so, we would have had a greater herd immunity, which would contribute in saving those who are vulnerable. Much of the vulnerable populations cannot take the vaccine due to side effects being greater risk than the covid. So vaccine without herd immunity from natural immune response is not going to solve the pandemic.
I myself chose to get covid in summer and I am glad I did. I do have compassion and plenty of it. But compassion alone won't save this problem, nor will it help us come out of the pandemic. Herd immunity will. And 100% reliance on vaccines is not the way in my opinion. The proof of that is California.

@3gyx

Yep natural human immunity, tell that to the 400k people who have died from this disease. The virus can literally wipe out an office floor. I'm assuming you were in one of the regions that hasn't been hit hard by this virus and think it's just the flu.

Based on this sounds like office is work is done until they come up with a better solution.

well, there is no better solution, remember? natural human immunity isn't something that brings anyone profits, hence discouraged by the propaganda.

management changes, and then direction changes - sometimes management doesn't even change but direction does.... it's as predictable as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west. Corporate life - not just Wells Fargo.

For well being/sanity, I remind myself not to get too worked up over stuff that's a "maybe" or "we'll see". So much stuff has changed, and continues to change. That exec might not even be here when the time comes for ppl to go back to office... or there might be different mandates from above. This is not right around the corner... it's going to be months... possibly as much as a year, given how slowly the vaccine is rolling out, virus mutations, local regs, need to reconfigure workspaces, etc.

Some people actually don't like working from home and want to be back in the office. Most likely there will be a hybrid solution when we finally get to that point...

I heard on the news they don't know the duration the vaccine will work; it could be 6 months, it could be less or more. No one knows. Then the people will need a new dose and the one's now are not even going to be distributed until probably end of 2021

Based on this sounds like office is work is done until they come up with a better solution.

Maybe when the military / National Guard is done in DC, they can come in here and diffuse this situation and detain the bad actors, send them to BAK

@1bbr+18Wky1wH, this happens in ICS too

@1qkx+18Wky1wH, thats a great concept but your forgetting where you work.

No one cares if any employee is happy, in fact they will do what does not make them unhappy. They are sick people and love to do things illegally, unethically. They dont care if they are more productive, if they are not productive they will be fired and replaced or not replaced. No one in the Management or regime really cares about you or anyone, probably not even their own families.

This is not a place to make friends. Just do your work, get it done well. Your coworkers are probably trying to destroy your work right now so they look better. They do this practice in the technology sector and mgmt turn their head and dont care.

It's probably because Charlie is not a fan of WFH. Even though that everyone is practically more efficient at home, a better work-life balance, happier employees, etc.

@1nii

Employee oversight doesn't mean you need to see people working, if someone isn't doing their job, management will find out pretty quickly. Employee oversight means controls on an employees ability to do things that could cause harm to the firm and their clients. Even with stealing SBA money, being in the office wouldn't have solved that issue, it was primarily a system / tech/ control issue that allowed it.

dont think joining any internal group matters; new regime will do what they want when they want. They only care about firing $10 billion worth of employees; tbh, making them unhappy and go back to the office is step 1.

Also in another post, the poster mentioned people in tech here wont get them to where they want to go, so they would want to get rid of and/or replace all of them

join the remote community of practice on team moments internally and post this there (just about potential repeal not the comment on who).

there's already a decent size of perm remote workers throughout the divisions and we've all had concern about it being taken away with the various location strategies that are being discussed.

I don't think this is some 10 dimensional chess to get people to self select to leave, leadership here has shown itself to be this out of touch and inept legitimately. Wanting people back in the office and ignoring extremely obvious efficiency improvements is unfortunately very in keeping with how this place has been run.

Yea but many companies use this as a mechanism to perform layoffs where the employees self select. Also how would they maintain control after company when Fed stated there is no employee oversight. Even last year many wells fargo employees stole from the SBA money for small businesses - that was disgusting

This directly contrasts with cost cutting of $10 Billion, real estate makes up a huge chunk of expenses, clearly shifting to remote work would help Charlie on his cost cutting. Charlie may not like remote working, but pulling employees back into the office when there is no "business case" for it, is really cutting off the nose to spite the face.

Our 5eam was told that Charlie et al were already in discussions and planning to start pulling remote workers back into offices BEFORE Covid. Not sure how the pandemic impacted that long-term, but I wouldn't necessarily count on remote/wfh continuing indefinitely.

Lol, 6 months ago you heard incorrectly or someone not high enough up the leadership ladder lied to you. After Spans and Layers is the person who made this claim that you would be permanently WFH even still here?

As someone who has been WFH since hire date it has been absolutely clear for going on two years now that this option will be trimmed down to hysterically thin amounts of people and those that are allowed to keep doing it must be near some sort of office as outlined by their business units and not just “any” office.

If people in your department made geolocation changes based on mid-pandemic chatter that was contradictory to every management communication I’ve seen in the past two years then they deserve every bit of misery they are about to endure.

Sorry WFH days are over post covid. This will allow for a mass exodus and get the company down $10 billion.

There has not been an all call since Pat took over. Not sure what you’re talking about. Also, work from home is still on track post covid, just not work from anywhere. Big difference.