Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Realistically I don't see us returning to anything resembling "normal" until at least 2022. In all seriousness, who would want to anyway? I totally understand and empathize for folks who can't work from home, but for those of us that can, why would you want to go back?

Realistically it'll be at least 2022 before things may go back to "normal". But who really wants to? I very much appreciate the way things are and working from home. For others I know that's not possible and hate it for them.

SP just announced extension through 12/1. It would be nice if they would go with year-end

JPM’s largest division (consumer) just stared wfh through end of year, with some exceptions of course. I’m sure wfc hated that news but will likely also push us to announce similar shortly. Or keep going month bu month, like it’s going to suddenly get better before flu season. I actually wonder if they’re doing month by month as another tactic to get people to look at greener pastures.

“Goodness me but the internets are filled with hot garbage.”

Internets?

The banks will do what they can, within reason. But there are things that we will just have to live with. Modern offices were not designed to have open windows for fresh air. They will not be building more bathrooms. They can add some HVAC air filtration, use some social distancing, wear masks, and wash hands. But we will still be indoors, sharing the air somewhat, and no real good way to social distance the bathrooms, which is probably a greater risk than just the normal office air.

In addition, there will be an elevated risk from the neighborhood seating, where younhave no permanent desk, and all desks are shared. This makes me very nervous. Someone who was sick may have been sitting there before me. I know I will be distracted and worried constantly by the shared desks. During a pandemic, WF wants to move to shared desks, I think that’s unwise.

Anyway, if someone gets the virus, there is no way to tell if it was at the office or not. Maybe they got it at a coffee shop or public transit or from a family member. The issue would be if a cluster occurs, where several people in the same area all get it at about the same time. That would indicate someone has it and is spreading it.

Being indoors with a group of people in an office is going to be at higher risk than outdoors with breezes. The clusters we see seem to be related to indoors where many people are clustered, like long term care facilities, prisons, hospitals, meat packing plants, airplanes, cruises, schools, churches, and this will include offices. But these types of locations are also where normal flu and colds spread too.

We will face a risk just returning, but another risk is the culture of coming to work while sick. That concerns me. We all know those who come to the office coughing, sneezing, congested. They claim it is just allergies. Maybe, maybe not. This happened before the pandemic, and will continue as long as we are expected to come in to please managers. So with the current environment of ongoing layoffs, folks will come in sick, and that may be our greatest risk. That is how the outbreak at Wells Fargo will begin.

People who are not lawyers posting about suing, COVIDiots posting their "feelings" without any sctientific or medical degrees.

Wells has lawyers who make sure you can't sue them because they cover all the bases, and a few people here owe an apology to ER staff.

Goodness me but the internets are filled with hot garbage.

Stay safe, healthy, and good luck.

sure they will try and do lawsuits; but guess what? The big banks talk about these kinds of efforts and create safety for themselves by jointly following suit. JPM has been trying to get their people back for months, sure it ended up having more infections recently but I honestly doubt that will slow down their efforts. They DO NOT want people working remotely. None of the big banks do. Besides, what do you really think will happen? Millions suing their employers for infection? Ha. Tell that to all the "front line" workers (ie retail, hospitals, restaurants etc) that have been working the entire time. No, there will not be any big wins here for the employees. The biggest impact you could have is to actually press the topic (not about WF of course) but in general on social media- at least for banking. The risk of repetitional damage is the thing they'll care most about and even then, it will need to be a significant threat.

@1tlu some ppl have open floors. some have cubes. its not safe and no it is not necessary for literally every person to go ahead and get the virus. it is possible if it slowed down, it would stop being passed. Some people will come out of this without having caught it. those that do and dont die will die from eating a burger at 58 bc their heart/organs are inflamed, damaged and mutated.

all your social interactions are limited to workplace interactions? That’s on you, buddy. im not going in bc ur A is bored!

I am ready to return to office if all the 4 cubes surrounding mine are empty .. I am just so darn sick of staying home with no social interaction .. If this continue for long, I am looking for a new job .. Happy to accept all the thumbs down on this comment!

JP Morgan have mass law suits due to their criminal actions sending people to unsafe environment.

They didnt even clean out the filtration! That is 101 knowledge

Saul said they will first experiment on a small group of employees to see if they get sick. They will be volunteers. After that, then they will decide when the rest return to the office.

Don’t get worked up until there’s something to know. The message has stayed the same for months: we’ll re-assess and make announcements.

At the end of the day WF can say you have to come back to an office unless the government had said otherwise. You can say you don’t want to work for WF anymore if you don’t like it’s terms and conditions and can’t negotiate something with your management that you can both live with.

I'm ready to go back to the office. Basic hygiene and a cautious approach goes a long way.

I've been full-time WFH for over 7 years. Last year management made this huge ruckus about that ending, they even sent me a new building badge. The nearest WF "office" location is an hour commute away, so if/when they pull that c-ap on me they will be getting two fewer hours of my time at work since they are modifying their previous agreement with me and forcing me into a long commute which is unnecessary as my job is not location specific.

Plus from what I've heard, all they need is for you to badge in/out for it to be counted as showing up to work. I know people who literally drive to the office, bade in, badge out and go home with no backlash. It's a stupid, short-sighted policy intended to cause "natural attrition".

I'm in California, a consistent 4 performer, and well liked by my peers so if they want to get rid of me they need to grow up and offer me a package.

I'll return when I damn well feel like it.

I have had to be in the office the entire time, along with my team, with no hazard pay.

If kids can return to school, there is no reason why WF employees cannot return to the office.

Don't get used to lazying around the house.

Sounds like you're working yourself into a lather about nothing. They said they'll review the situation again November 1st and make a decision from there. If you can't stand WF, leave - seriously, go somewhere else. Make yourself happy before the stress of worrying about things that you have no control over k–ls you.

I am not returning in November.