Why even put yourself at risk. Especially when management will continue to put the same person into that bucket. They have to cover their own a-s too. Wake up guys.
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Never mind let EM bully us while they can for now
We take it peacefully while we can
Let EM think PIP is their world class tool
Bullying cannot and wont last forever
We employees are not that stupid id--ts either
# exxonmobiled is doomed
PIP PIP Hooray! We Are ExxonMobil!!!!!!
That’s not a secret - 3 strikes in PIP and you are out.
HR has been very proud in sharing that the Corporation has been kind to give us even 2 chances.
So shout PIP PIP Hooray! We Are ExxonMobil!!!!!!
Not many in EM SG know this.
But if you are PIP’d more than twice in succession (despite passing each one), you’d be asked to go, on the third count.
Go ask HR! It’s documented somewhere.
I didn’t think Exxon really values leadership. It just rewards solid managers who can present well.
Leadership? EM management has lost the plot on how to manage things. During the good old days, everyone was seen as being good. On the downcycle, with Covid's exposure, the so-called competency of EM management has been brought to light and it is ugly. The so-called shotgun decisions are traits of worried people trying to regain composure, but they are too incompetent to realize that. Maybe a course on Peter's principle will enlighten them on how to recognize and evaluate competency. Too bad, being in the fifties, I am just thinking of rolling out the few years before resigning. Challenging the management? They can look up for it is coming, they are going to get enough brickbats from the ground as even a dog will retaliate and fight back when it is cornered, what more with the lower ground, who have put in lots of efforts in doing things correctly but being treated worse off by the so-called management team, be it the supervisors or SLS or DH and above. None have the ba--s to stand up and say things but just comply with the directions from the top.
Disappointing and disgusting id--ts. NEver take care of the people who have helped them to achieve their KPI and goals. No respect for these people
If the 8% target (or re-adjusted up/down in future years) to be PIP’ed is gonna be a yearly affair post-PA, then the future for most will be very bleak, worrisome and depressing.
Your remuneration, cash flow, family’s quality of life, long-term securities (like housing mortgage and other financial assets & savings) will never be a given ….. nor can they be planned for, with any degree of certainty!
What kind of life will you be leading, going forward? It’s no different from taking on a contact job. No?
Cos you can be asked to leave any time.
And not forgetting that the bottom NSI tier will certainly choose to leave, after repeated PIP - leaving a vacuum for the rest above to fall into, in the following year’s PA.
Many recent resignations tendered in 2021 had provided the above reasons for their vote of no confidence, to remain in EM’s employ.
Unless you are P-T 38 (and you know it because your supervisor is busy kissing your a-s), there’s only jobs for you and not a career. Polish up your resume, or else just buy some lubes and smear all over your ar-e, because you will get screwed over at some point in time. Be smart.
@4ffxq+16zEvLP3 Sounds like you have a job and not a career here. You are probably headed for the NSI route down the road. Assuming you are young, it is wise to use some free time to polish up your resume and move on.
Wonder what is my career technical path or now dead path. My fellow leaving it fast and I just takeover more unit more people find me for answer and follow up. The email just piling and chasing. boss say can push back but still my work at the end of day. Doesn’t help with piling ground work I am doing. all like to ask general questions but no one do quantitative calculations assessment. 80/20 rule 80% real work done by 20% ppl, who are the 20%???
Taking advantage of foreigners and squeezed their ba--s...
Those losers can't do sheet for nuts, hence they're here whining.
People who are capable already left and moved on. Kek.
Can hire so many more without an executive. Do it.
What’s the point of complaining? I really don’t get the Singaporeans here. Vote with your feet - just apply for jobs and just leave. No point complaining - management has already told you, the door is always open. Welcome to walk out- everyone is dispensable.
No point getting personal with this.
Not surprising that LCM drives a Porsche. Execs are well compensated.
However, it’s quite sad that the Porsche is funded by departures of multiple Singaporeans. And there’s no pushback to Dallas on how PA is run, and yet there’s still another study to see if our wages can be cut further. It’s ridiculous!
Auntie drive Porsche? Auntie got midlife crisis? Auntie need young hot blooded male as sugar baby? Cover face turn off lights
Dear @4dpyh+16zEvLP3,
It’s not about what car the LCM (Local Contry Manager) drives or where she stays. It’s about the person’s conscience with respect to Righteousness, Benevolence, Wisdom and Proprietary (Confucius teachings).. if the person is brought up in the right manner, the person will do the right thing. Otherwise the person will be come to regret his/her life later.
I believe that you all want to be treated fairly and that’s all, right? If we happen to work in a Company that fails and to survive, they have to take drastic actions to cut costs, so be it. The employees should be treated fairly and they can move on to another job. There will be disruption in our lives and we have to move on.
I was one of the earlier ones to be cut off, and mind you, I have clocked 40+ years with the Company and I was very upset initially, like many of you. I kept saying to myself: “why it has to be me and not someone else?” I did not run down any of the Management staff action. I seek solace with my inner self and threw out all the hatred out of the window. I felt better now and have move on. I encourage you all to do the same too. Try not to be negative, as it will affect your work life and most importantly, your family life too. It’s not worth it. There is so much life outside EM, for the affected persons and for those who are in, hopefully you can influence the change in the Company, over time.
Take care all my ex-colleagues and live for ourselves.
AFAIK, GC drives a Porsche to work and her home is a landed property.
Choice #1 for the win.
Big houses and nice cars don’t pay for themselves!
If you are GC / SG management, which would you choose
Choice 1
Continue to freeze salary/promotions for as long as possible to impress the higher ups, knowing the remaining workforce will continue to deliver and stay because those who remain either do not have the skill set outside of EM or current compensation is higher than market. Drag this on and do not rock the boat for a decade or so....then retire happily.
Choice 2
Fight for the people, ruffle some feathers at Dallas to bring back salary / promotion increments, recognising these are peoples' livelihood and for long term success of SG EM, and since I am in a position of power to do something, i am going to leave a positive legacy.
Think carefully....
I guess regardless of positive of negative post, life still goes on.
Gonna spend my time wisely and not on EM and the posts here.
Good luck guys!
May the odds be with u.
Wondering are you blind, someone already said this is "EM Layoffs" site, definitely got negative comments. If you not happy reading, just leave this site.
But hope you don't secretly applying job outside and talk positive Bu-----t here.
It does not pay to treat your boss/management nice, there is NO reward here If everyone set the right attitude to stand on their ground, suggest their bosses to DO the work instead of pushing everything down. Mgt returning home on time, while the lower ranks suffering, is demonstrating a weak management behaviour.
The reality is :
1) pple of age group > 40yrs old enjoyed the good old days of oil industry. This was comprehended in their current salary. Any pay freeze , they would stomach it bec :
- their salaries are considerable high
- they are stuck and not easy to switch runway
- they have high liabilities to service
2) pple of age group <40 yrs old, this group suffers because they did not reap the full benefit of the glorious days of oil industry . The road ahead is evidently uphill. Sunset is within sight. CEO is desperate in reducing cost to service the unsustainable debt of $65bn ( will keep going up since he wants to please shareholders by increasing div payout ) which if there is another crisis like covid or if covid gets serious again.... Xom will likely be up for sales ( to Chevron) ...
Company is living on the edge ... counting on the mercy of opec + to keep crude price high. Current good 1Q earning , majority attributed to crude oil price recovery .... no credit of any of these high paying execs ( who did nothing but going around cutting jobs) . Who brought the company to such state of misery and dishonour ? All thanks to DW, RT and all the execs . Yet , none of them has been made accountable ? ...what kind of leadership is this ?
The young employees are no fools , why would they get on board or stay on board to a sinking titanic whereby the captain and his Mgmt are clearly doing things to enrich themselves and no qualms to sink the ship?
Some chemical sales team lost half their team in 3 months. What does that mean?
—-> means team is well coached, supervisor doing his/her people, developing the people into talents such that they are valuable outside of EM.
Seems like there are a lot of “smart Alex” and whiner in this forum.
If the situation is not working for u, most probably u can think what u should do with your life instead of sending negative or so called advise in this forum.
You control your own life.
So shut the F up and move on.
What is it that u are trying to change u powerless and anonymous piece of sh1t
In this time and age, it is pointless to worry. Always have a backup plan. Focus on gaining a skill and create value for yourself. 1st Rule of LPSA - What is the worst thing that can happen.
NTUC Learning Hub have lots of courses for you to take.
Downgrade and Liquidate your assets if you have to. It’s not the end of the world. Family Support matters!
@4bbct+16zEvLP3
And the people who “cannot afford to leave” are those with one, or more, of the following liabilities:
- high mortgage on house ... worse if heavily-leveraged on a second “investment” mortgage
- taken max loan on car(s)
- revolving on credit cards’ rollover repayment
- dependent on banks’ credit overdraft to pay off credit card bills (tantamount to financial desperation)
- still paying off high personal / study loans
- dabbled in stock market, with a net-negative equity portfolio
- children, who have not made it to tertiary level yet
How?
The fact that SG management is willing to continue salary freeze goes to show their confidence that those who are capable of leaving have already left, while those who remain, most probably cant afford to leave and will continue to slog.
@4bwlv+16zEvLP3
Do you think a DH that’s worth his salt and earning more than $300K pa (more so, if it is a DM), would want to be let go?
Heck! It’s nearly one million $$ of lost opportunity for every 3 years of time he spends in his office, until he retires!!
Going outside, he’d need at least an SME Director’s job, to equal they kinda remuneration and then some!
If no pay raise next year there will be more people will leave.how can you leave young folks with no pay increment for two years outside is doing better than EM. So attracting talent need incentives, tangible one. Those left also happily told the network outside is better at least for now..
The people leaving are all low wages workers. Need to cut the fats, especially higher wages managers, supervisors and advisors.
Engineering.
Going to be lost due to TMTS BS implementation.
Wonder how will this bring value to the Organization compared to us.
Some chemical sales team lost half their team in 3 months. What does that mean?
This is an anonymous forum.
Can we identify the dept who the PIPed the ex loyal colleagues and friends in this forum. It does not not hurt since this forum is not yammer for high level EM position to be in anyway, but a place to share which dept or person (if u wanted to share) we need to take care of before it’s too late.
When the information was shared to me, I did not feel there was care, empathy, but more of need improvement and more follow ups. The list was full on top of my routine work. That’s when I made my decision.
For those who took on the PIPed and survived. I truth respect the “skills” u had put in. And perhaps can shared in this forum in order for me to survive in other company too.
I left EM few years back and it was till today the best decision. Although I am still in the energy industry, I get to see and learn so much more, gaining real skillset than just coordinating information like what most EM employee do actually. Once outside EM, success will come when you stop behaving like an EM. You definitely can get better career outside, I really cannot understand why people would actually think I was "brave" to leave
Wonder which function/s has the highest number of employees resigned. It speaks alot about the management weaknesses. Statistics don't lie. Be worried if it happens in your department.
Don’t know why there’s so much negativity towards the workers. The Singaporean workers are extremely hardworking, putting in the longest hours and even more so during the pandemic and yet we are treated like condoms- discarded after usage. It’s most annoying and I wish there’s some kind of retribution towards the ungrateful managers. It’s really ridiculous.
SG workforce, thank you for all the great work so far. I hope you are ready for another year of salary freeze.