Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

@4askq+16zEvLP3

OP, it’s not about the people of Singapore that is the issue. It’s about the Company which lies to its employees and treat them unfairly in the way they want to reduce headcount to cut costs by using the so-called “Performance-based” criteria to avoid paying “retrenchment” payouts as in industry practice, if not, industry standards.

Such a Company need to be “exposed” to the people here, so that they are fully aware of what to expect, if one decide to work there and what he or she need to do, like use the Company as a “training and learning” stage for a brighter and fulfilling career elsewhere. I must admit that EM is a good place to learn but as a secure and life-long employer, I am afraid to say “No”.

OP, I hope you sympathise with the affected employees and you do have your own Plan for a secure life-long and fulfilling career. I sincerely wish you all the best.

@4askq+16zEvLP3
The comments on this site are reflective of the quality of XOM useless leadership team. You are either hopelessly brainwashed or filled with filthy hidden agenda to make such a post.
Earnest hardworking employees are being forced to leave in the most undignified and unethical manner while SLS retain their cushy jobs doing nothing apart from spewing abundant corporate BS. Like what the previous post says, go ahead and post your sympathy on Yammer in your desperate PLP attempt to improve your ranking. Just leave us alone.

@4askq+16zEvLP3
Learn to read the room? This is a layoff site. This is not the place to impress DW or any other management psychopaths. Are people who were let go or fear of getting let go supposed to be merry and cheery here? If you want to post happy propaganda, go to Yammer. If EM isn't so scummy in the way they treat employees, maybe things would've been different. Hand to heart yourself, do you believe EM is treating us fair? Get off your high horse and stop with the toxic positivity.

I have been reading this thread and I am wondering what are DW & SVPs thinking of when they are reading this. Does this reflect the quality of people that we hired in Singapore? Is this the place that the corporate is keen to continue investing looking at all the pessimistic or intimidating comments?

I personally do not think these comments are going to help EM SG to become stronger or prove that SG is worth investing. We need to understand some local managers SLSs are trying their best as well but we also need to be empathetic and smart enough to understand that there are things beyond their controls. It is also not an easy time for them as well - Treat everyone with kindness, not because they are kindhearted, but because you are.

Hand on heart - if you really feel that you are undervalued or underpaid by EM, I am truly sorry to hear that. You need to believe that you deserve a better opportunity and you need to make a right decision for yourself.

Typical as$s li---r, the lady who asked question to Karen but praised DW first.
Damn. Full of suck lickers, the assess are all clean now.

Guys, gst hike incoming also. Ask GC to spare some change to tide you over.

Pay freeze in an inflationary environment. That’s just nasty.

Definitely more opportunities and more companies who will treat you with more decency and respect.

Don’t buy into your manager’s chatter that your skills are not transferable or that XOM is overpaying you. You do have some worth.

All those friends who have left have always found better paying jobs or had gone on to better careers.

Oil and gas is on its last legs, and chem’s performance can’t carry all the deadweight of Fuels and Upstream. The new frontier is tech and go ahead to embrace this .

Good to see many hipo leave for better. 10yrs later those probably think that's best choice. Good to see those cannot go easily will have to stay on as no transferable skills over 10. 20yrs except em system knowledge. Professionals not too worry as market value about same.

I just started applying jobs, hope can land somewhere better for my mental health. All the best for everyone who's doing the same!

Injecting some positivity here: for all those who are still looking for jobs, I'm rooting for you!

Have so many competent colleagues who were let go. You're being underpaid in EM, and you'll definitely find greener pastures out there. EM is still a good name amongst employers. For those of us who have been in the company for too long, make sure you set up your linkedin profile too, it's amazing the opportunities you can get there.

@46iza+16zEvLP3

You make a great Analyst
Got new job got more free time
No more useless em best practice to bother anymore
Now the best things is happening to you
Awesome my friend

@46iza+16zEvLP3

Haha... we were employed and got free time to look at phone. Not like EM doing unless OCVM, LPO, Webcat, after all these, incident still happen, then NLI, LI, incident still happen.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/hold-toxic-managers-accountable-drop-useless-meetings-commerce-chamber-ceo-on
Sounds familiar? Look no further than our EM fake managers who have the following traits as ultimate fakes :
1) Say care about you but really don't
2) Say you did a great job, but actually they take all the credit
3) Ask you to do slides for yourself to advance, but it is for their upward presentation
4) Spout safety, controls and nonsense process but actually don't walk the talk
5) Ask you to polish your EADS for better ranking but actually for their cut and paste for own
6) Take credit when it it is your work, but throw you under the bus when things go wrong
7) Ask for feedback but actually use negative ones to target you
8) Appears to know everything when you present but did no work in helping

The list goes on and some malost their real self after faking for so long! For the young ones staying, you better learn to do faking and upward management all your life.

Time check ✔️ who else still working?? Is this ever gonna end?

@46lwg+16zEvLP3 sour grapes

Yah the laid off people got plenty of free spare time becoz no more no need wasting time on bu-----t lpo lpsa ocvm vnv nli li countless meeting sharing repeated reviews and useless time wasting hours 1 on 1 with managers and supervisors
Already got a job trying to practice lpsa for fun somehow new employer say WTF is that dont and no need waste everybody and your own time just carry on with your work
So i realised em lpo lpsa bla bla bla is all bu-----t and useless in other company zero value no value at all
Now this is the new found freedom of time and you only do your job scope
Here i dont need to know mgmt jobscope or must complete fark things call webcat also
During my time in em even being the lowest level technician must know and be webcat certified from my technician post until Houston mgmt jobscope
We Technicians are not Professors and not paid CEO salary to know must know everything OK
Love loving my new company already
Leaving em wasn't a bad move poor choice after all

Funny all the laid off people are still on this thread. Guess they still jobless and rejected from their countless interviews that’s why so much time to come here. Go and take more courses to build your resume la!

Another Monday.
I know you guys will work your a-s out to please the bosses so that you don't lose the precious job.
But you are only waiting to be PIP'ed.

As you continue to deliver results and work long hours; night calls etc. Think about what SG management is doing for you....i dont mean empty words of " Well done /Thank you". Think hard about what tangible appreciations has been given, as opposed to the tangible results you delivered.

If you are happy with the above, good for you and continue. Else it is time to let go and leave.

The truth of the matter for EM is that it has passed its glorious era and the sun is setting fast on this industry. As a result, we will see the following fallout from current situation:
A) Early 50-60yrs old employees which include GC herself . Some will be Piped without much payout ( that’s how the system works , as u get older , you become an anchor ie you sink. That’s why they are often branded the anchorman not for no reason lol) while those that remain , they will perform the job of “ last office “ ie shutting down and winding up the operation . They are also likely to sink with the ship but will a life jacket or buoy :)
B) early 40s to late 40s. This is the unfortunate sandwiched group. They will find it challenging to switch runway with equal pay . But If they continue to stay on, they will be too young to “die” before their times sinking along with the ship
C) below 40s , this group will jump ship. It’s no brainer that this industry could not provide them the runway till retirement. They will bite the bullet to switch career even if it means temporary pay cut.
With the above scenario , what future is left for EM??? Those in the first category will continue to toe the party line to enrich themselves as much as possible ( this explains what DW is doing ) to ensure they have a fat pay check (ie life jacket and buoy) when the ship sinks.

Remember the last scene of titanic ? There was a few guys playing the violins before the ship sank? These were the pple doing the last office :) chanting “ we are ExxonMobil” lol

Good luck worker bees ... 🐝

When you join a tech company, don’t stop learning. Keep improving by taking certification. IT certs last 3-5 years and keeps you on the ball.

Comptia, LPIC, CCNA, GIAC, (ISC)2, OSCP, Cloud, Coding

As what LHL say ‘Digitalisation, Automation, Sustainability’ is the future trend.

Rumor has it that HQ wanted to cut AWS in 2020 but SG mgmt fought back. No prize for guessing what HQ wants this year, but will GC fight back? First year as LCM surely she has much to prove to the overlords. Methinks the cut is inevitable but announcement will be made closer to year end. Gotta milk SG workforce for as long as possible!

Lol enjoy your days in EM then.

Go other tech company? From O&G jump to shoppee the most u do product management.. consolidate data. Unless u further study in com sci else good luck. Wonder why their turn over is basecase high.. dont get me wrong. EM is LTA but it cringes me to see someone thinks shoppee is much better.

Ok la people in Shopee can move into other tech companies. You still stuck in o&g. Have fun staying poor man.

My ranking was good last year and don’t think will be bad this year. Anyway no increment = no drive = do bare minimum. Very toxic environment and everyone is acting busy and backstabbing each other. MRLP program will last indefinitely till the economic recovery. 8% this year and likely 10% if the economy still stay the same as before. So if you like it just like me, stay on, if not move on. Nobody owns us a living. All the best to your jobs search.

Exactly, people who complain here are those that are stuck and can't do anything about it.
They know deep down inside they're ngmi.

This thread has become a ground for employees to merely vent their anger on their managers/company etc. The SLSes and managers are victims of the system as well (we wouldn’t have done things much differently if we were in their positions either); they don’t have a say in many of the things rolled out and there is only so much that they can do either. This is just like any other corporate; it owes no one a living. Hope to see more posts on constructive criticisms on things that within the control of our local management (the few being posted are also getting lost in the flood of disgruntled employees’ grumbles) or from ex-employees if it is indeed greener on the other side and what has worked for you to land a job in other industries or unbiased insights from managers on their personal outlook of EM operation in Sg. There is already enough negativity around and just a mere confused employee here looking for light at the end of the tunnel (whether within or outside EM) and some genuine advice…

 @44mkz+16zEvLP3

Either loser or winner here. If you not happy viewing this posting, the door is open, like EM, you can exit. Stop viewing and get back to work.

44mkz+16zEvLP3

Hope one fine day you get the honour of being in the PIP list wall of fame
This forum is dedicated to whack em worst class practices.
We are not beimg fairly treated and we should voice out so this forum is for negative people only
You are so positive must be one of the em blue eye boy going out to perform world class lpo lpsa ocvn dirty sh-t things on us
Good luck to you

This posting got too many losers.
Keep posting bad things about EM but cannot find a job outside EM.
Pathetic.
Stop the nonsense and go back to work,even on weekends.

I left a couple of years back. Sad to see the company is in this state today.

Moving out of EM is not as easy as most would think, especially if you are a generalist and have more than 7 or 8 years experience. Most commercial roles require experience in P&L responsibilities or have a network of customers, of which roles that offers such experience within EM is very limited.

And if you are the few who are in touch with customers today, remember to build your network, otherwise the moment you leave and without your EM name card, no one will want to meet you and you are very quickly forgotten.

Specialist who move out do the same job in other companies maybe with a slight bump in pay. Those who did so find themselves pigeon-holed and find that it is difficult to find progression. But that's the reality. Some companies have people do the same role for 10,15,20 years. Most MNC use HR consulting companies to benchmark pay level/ increment and it is about the same for most, so no need to wonder. Even if there's variation, it is not much.

There's no such thing as planned job rotation, internal job postings are available but more often or not they are filled with externally with relevant experience. Most company don't have the luxury of time or headcount to train, they need plug and play. There's no such thing as developmental roles, headcount is being scrutinized all the time.

Having said that, if you are willing to take risk, take on more responsibility and put yourself out there, the world out there can be more rewarding, in terms of progression and variable pay, than what EM has to offer.

But otherwise, like most whom I am still in touch with, for the job/ responsibility, the pay in EM is still attractive.

All the best to those who are looking, those who are staying and those who are leaving.

@43afr+16zEvLP3 - Why you jealous??
Don't dare to resign or stuck in EM can't get interview.
We haolian cause we resigned and immediately got job.

We Were Not ExxonMobil

There is a serious problem and flaw with the incentive scheme for managers. Should be penalized for poor morale of the team, too many subordinates leaving, wrongly seeking highest level approvals and hiding mistakes.

Left to join Shopee. Got a nice bump in pay. Winning!

Shopee shopee number 1!

Alright - I have hao lianed, can @43afr+16zEvLP3?

We all know the state of affairs of the company. No need to reiterate. You want to leave, just go. Leave already then come and haolian here. Don't keep cut and paste same message.

See where the company now vs 2013, huge dip in just 7-8 years.

Honest question: do you think SGCX will remain competitive in the next 5, 10, 20 years? Whether it's yes or no, what are the reasons?

Really waste of time for the annual 1:1 PADP. Apply my LPSA, worst case scenario, get PIL/PIL and move on. Rather spend my good time using office hour to find jobs... move on and still get my prorated bonus, bye bye!

If you prefer to stay, just be prepared, next 2-3 years no increment & promotion. Only PIP, PIL, MRLP, NLI, LI and LPO.
If not, please move to elsewhere where the grass is always greener.