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Nab shot the 8% NSI sure kena PIP liao!
Best of luck dudes … for those who die die sticking their g-ns to remain in EM.
Come next year, yet another round hor!
Will you all have the mental stamina, emotional strength and physical endurance to go through these recurring, life-changing cycles, year in and year out?
At the end of the day, psychologically and/or medically, something will have to give.
And that’s a fact! The human body and mind are not infallible.
What will happen when you can no longer be gainfully employed and have to be “institutionalised” for the later part of your lives? Your family, wife, children? How?
Individuals’ CC feedback on PA results was circulated to all supervisors yesterday. 1:1 Comm sessions, over the next few days, have already been arranged.
Management shares that high attrition is an outcome that strategy is working. We are going closer to the 3B of structural savings. All these without expensive layoff packages. We are ExxonMobil and we are winning!
high attrition department reflects loss of trust and confidence in their mgmt, simple.
Supervisors already started to let folks know they are NSIed. Hope everyone has already sorted out their exit plans. PIP PIP hooray!!!
Cos finance easier to jump out? Might not always be a good thing, might also mean finance ppl are paid less vs outside thus far..
How come finance attrition so high?
Employees forum has no meaning anymore, the more we have, the less credible are the sponsors.
To be honest, i learnt more in advanced than all the employee forums or LCM quarterly emails combined.
To those who call this forum BS....you can continue living in your fantasy world where EM is no. 1
Pay raises are gg to be very selective and real increment amounts are low (if any), after factoring in the AWS cut. Call BS if you want, but doesn’t change the impending announcements.
By the way, the layoff % are lower than reported but that’s because you didn’t factor in the PIP and NSI departures. You can wise up and work that in like Reuters and Bloomberg- and you can find that the math actually works out pretty similar.
Keep living your dream and drinking the Kool-aid
Smart employees control their own journey, exit at the right time. Never depend on words from employer or management, they have their own agenda.
@51uib+16zEvLP3 of cos it’s BS. This is an anonymous forum where people had been coming to talk about so much cr-p. Few months back before the layoff numbers were announced there were also so many “reliable sources” coming to this forum to share the % cut. I don’t recall any of those numbers to be accurate. Just come here and read about people whines to chill, if you are really looking for career advice, this is clearly the wrong place
@51xum+16zEvLP3 I can only say this is a perfect example of how the new PA system works! #WAEM!
@51klz+16zEvLP3 no... its really possible. I was average in my early years and definitely not on management path, low PO. but my experiences stacked up and in the past few years I had roles where I could integrate the experiences.
although I can't speak English super well and still don't really know how to navigate a white-collar world (from Chinese speaking fam, both parents were cleaners), I had very experienced colleagues in the US in recent years who somehow see me. I was so surprised I was ranked outstanding. there are late bloomers in this company. we will never become hi po or get to CL 27, but it's not an EM only issue. society generally celebrates people who bloom early (see PAP scholars turned ministers).
but don't give up on late bloomers just because EM or society does!
I feel a lot of BS about AWS cut, inciting fear to people. Making situation worse for the company for own selfish reason.
@51utj+16zEvLP3 I call BS here. For a 15 year employee, working hard with little visibility to be ranked in outstanding is not possible. The expectations for a 15 year employee is going to be on leadership behaviours so it doesn’t gel at all with what you mentioned
But if it is to align us with industry standard of 13 month aws, does tt mean we will be having variable bonus scheme? That's the industry standard - 13th month + variable bonus (dependent on company health and own performance).
Damn sad.. I'm ranked outstanding for last two cycles but no increment even for 2022 :( the funny thing is I can get higher pay if I walk out, but I keep hoping things will get better here.
When I tidied my CV last night I reflected that I'm grateful to EM for all the learnings and experiences in the past 15 years... I worked so hard with little visibility type of work.. it's all pure "work like dog" work. but it was all good learning. I'm thankful I work for a once great company, but I'm starting to apply for jobs already
@https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@51nxg+16zEvLP3
Any pay rise in 2022?
AWS to be cut by 2 months...meaning we will only get 1 month from 2022 onwards.
This is HR reccomendation to align us to market, getting 13th month only.
GC and SG mgt are supportive and received praises from Dallas.
How much AWS reduction expected?
Stop spreading fake news please. AWS cut is baked in.m, talking points finalized. Unless you are living in another universe dimension that we don’t know about, it’s coming our way Mentally Tired. By the way, if it’s really true you are in another dimension, can you let us know how to get there? I think the EMAPPL in your dimension won’t have PIP or NSI too right?
Otherwise, can only hope Apple, Google, Amazon, Shopee, Bytedance HR give me a call after seeing my CV. I heard they treat employees like humans rather than toilet paper.
https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@51qvf+16zEvLP3
This is fake news, No aws cut this year. Likely no pay increment as well for 2022.
we are still competitive after AWS cut - HR.
@50ehh+16zEvLP3 So what you're saying is, even if you are Outstanding/Excellent for past 2 years, you are still getting almost net zero increment due to the high increment being cancelled off with AWS reduction? And that's the best case scenario because the rest will have net negative?
I guess they will finally get the attrition numbers that they want!
@51jwi+16zEvLP3 iheardarumor look even if there was s*xual misconduct by the lawyer since management had investigated and let him off and promoted him then you should just let this go instead of going on and on like broken record you are obviously jealous of how capable he is!
@51jwi+16zEvLP3 smthing must be srsly wrong with sg law dept cos anr good lawyer just resigned but the old useless high pay talk big always taiji work and humsup ones still arnd never NSI!
First line and day team are overly paid for that level of skillsets & commitment. I am believe technicians are being abusive by doing all their jobs. Any companies outside will not paid $10,000 for someone to just delegate downwards. This role do not hold any responsibility as well. FRCS outcome mainly fixated at 5 and/or 6. It is always the technician at fault & not the supervisor. Oh well, these parasites are ki----g a hundred over years old big tree. Luckily I left earlier as I do not see eye to eye with operation management.
In fact, company do not need first line supervisors/MCs since technicians pool are capable to do their jobs. Why waste money on them? Please save the real worker bees in the field
Supervisors: An organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.
@51lwp+16zEvLP3 chill bro/sis iherdarumor didnt say the relationship was wrong only said that guy was in such a relationship cos someone asked if it’s the same guy
STFU leh what’s wrong with in--------l relationship? Are you dropped on your head as a baby?
@51jwi+16zEvLP3 this must be the shorty whos a bit gu niang rite? i watched him carry the bosses ba--s b4 he damn power the other lawyers better learn if they want to climb lol
https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@3Gzms+16zEvLP3 >>>>> yah did some digging & found out this lawyer is in a inter racial relationship
https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@42rog+16zEvLP3 >>>>> thks for this info. i heard that not the first time for this lawyer when in india he was also complained for touching other guys but boss covered up for him & send him back to Sg then now boss send him on expat assignment WLE!!!!
Shoppee has been taking in so many of our Em folks. What does this mean? Our guys who have crossed over must have shown good performance , that is why Mgmt of shoppee is keen to hire more … well done ex -Emers. Leave and go to places where u are more apprecIated and valued . More importantly set path towards sunrise and not sunset industry. Certainly I have no interest to accompanying GC to watch the sunset …
Are you delusional boomer? EM package has never been competitive with other majors here, and is only average compared with pharma and semicon
In every company, salary benchmarking is done to justify your low pay, find the lowest possible pay they can to make you bark as they wish, communicated as an exercise for your benefit
Easy easy... it's just matter of time we will know, but may get played out.
Go out and survey or ask your friends whether EM salary and bonus is high. Why not also ask your China or Thai colleague?
It's almost impossible that AWS will be cut. Our salary will not be competitive amongst the majors, we will lose plenty of talents from the company. These rumours are spread to incite fear in the company. Even if its true these are confidential matters, how could it be possible such news leaked out. And why they did not cut AWS in 2020 even through times are worse than now. Oil is back up $70/bbl. Chances are slim AWS will be cut. Stop the rumours!
Shxxty management, all liars and conman.
Let's go find jobs outside.. leave the company if you can. The shxxtyy management will be classic in corporate management history.
Let's go go go...