we are still competitive after AWS cut - HR.
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@50ehh+16zEvLP3 So what you're saying is, even if you are Outstanding/Excellent for past 2 years, you are still getting almost net zero increment due to the high increment being cancelled off with AWS reduction? And that's the best case scenario because the rest will have net negative?
I guess they will finally get the attrition numbers that they want!
@51jwi+16zEvLP3 iheardarumor look even if there was s*xual misconduct by the lawyer since management had investigated and let him off and promoted him then you should just let this go instead of going on and on like broken record you are obviously jealous of how capable he is!
@51jwi+16zEvLP3 smthing must be srsly wrong with sg law dept cos anr good lawyer just resigned but the old useless high pay talk big always taiji work and humsup ones still arnd never NSI!
First line and day team are overly paid for that level of skillsets & commitment. I am believe technicians are being abusive by doing all their jobs. Any companies outside will not paid $10,000 for someone to just delegate downwards. This role do not hold any responsibility as well. FRCS outcome mainly fixated at 5 and/or 6. It is always the technician at fault & not the supervisor. Oh well, these parasites are ki----g a hundred over years old big tree. Luckily I left earlier as I do not see eye to eye with operation management.
In fact, company do not need first line supervisors/MCs since technicians pool are capable to do their jobs. Why waste money on them? Please save the real worker bees in the field
Supervisors: An organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.
@51lwp+16zEvLP3 chill bro/sis iherdarumor didnt say the relationship was wrong only said that guy was in such a relationship cos someone asked if it’s the same guy
STFU leh what’s wrong with in--------l relationship? Are you dropped on your head as a baby?
@51jwi+16zEvLP3 this must be the shorty whos a bit gu niang rite? i watched him carry the bosses ba--s b4 he damn power the other lawyers better learn if they want to climb lol
https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@3Gzms+16zEvLP3 >>>>> yah did some digging & found out this lawyer is in a inter racial relationship
https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@42rog+16zEvLP3 >>>>> thks for this info. i heard that not the first time for this lawyer when in india he was also complained for touching other guys but boss covered up for him & send him back to Sg then now boss send him on expat assignment WLE!!!!
Shoppee has been taking in so many of our Em folks. What does this mean? Our guys who have crossed over must have shown good performance , that is why Mgmt of shoppee is keen to hire more … well done ex -Emers. Leave and go to places where u are more apprecIated and valued . More importantly set path towards sunrise and not sunset industry. Certainly I have no interest to accompanying GC to watch the sunset …
Are you delusional boomer? EM package has never been competitive with other majors here, and is only average compared with pharma and semicon
In every company, salary benchmarking is done to justify your low pay, find the lowest possible pay they can to make you bark as they wish, communicated as an exercise for your benefit
Easy easy... it's just matter of time we will know, but may get played out.
Go out and survey or ask your friends whether EM salary and bonus is high. Why not also ask your China or Thai colleague?
It's almost impossible that AWS will be cut. Our salary will not be competitive amongst the majors, we will lose plenty of talents from the company. These rumours are spread to incite fear in the company. Even if its true these are confidential matters, how could it be possible such news leaked out. And why they did not cut AWS in 2020 even through times are worse than now. Oil is back up $70/bbl. Chances are slim AWS will be cut. Stop the rumours!
Shxxty management, all liars and conman.
Let's go find jobs outside.. leave the company if you can. The shxxtyy management will be classic in corporate management history.
Let's go go go...
I hope Thai HR gets lots of RSUs with this AWS cut. Single handedly saved the company millions with wage reductions, increased attrition rates in Singapore. Someone other than GC, DW must benefit from this right?
Well done! #weareexxonmobil! #winning
No worries about AWS cut. It’s already concluded and we can’t change anything by worrying.
Right now, we can only shout We Are ExxonMobil loudly to show our support for the company. As for our bills, can only hope for the best.
Everyone below outstanding - the message is clear and you know what to do
@50ehh+16zEvLP3 Disgusting
Just heard that AWS confirm to be only 1 month. But at the same time increment will be given based on performance over last 2 cycles. Plan is to give a big increment to excellent and outstanding performers which will translate to overall small increment on an annual basis (~15% to cover for the ~13% reduction due to 2 months AWS removed).
For those ranked below very good, expect to get miserable increments below 2% and your cut in AWS is used to fund the increment of the better performers.
We are winning
@50bzs+16zEvLP3
Attrition comes from repeated PIPs (3 months of flogging every year, then slog for the remaining 9 months … and if still end up in NSI? Then repeat the whole cycle over again, the following year).
See how many can tahan this kind of abuse.
After 2-3 years of this mental, emotional and physical torture, most will leave the company. Younger, new hires, as well as the old hats alike - they won’t find it comfortable anymore ….. no more cruising along.
The voluntary resignations only add to the overall attrition tally count.
Sooner (more so, than later), the company WILL need to rehire - to remain operable. No problem.
One advert alone for a couple of positions will attract thousands of applicants from all over Asia - not just Singapore.
@50bzs+16zEvLP3 Part of the people strategy to purge the old. NSI 8% of the existing employees >> PIP the nasty out of them > empty positions filled by new hires
Cost effective way!
How can there be new hires when there’s not enough attrition.
Looking at the bunch of new hires we have - those .
I think that they’d be better off quitting EM and joining the likes of Shopee lah.
Akin to the band group The All American Rejects … only substitute the “American”, for Singaporean hehe!
We are winning!
Look at some SLSs, only know how to "i echo" this and that. Or type "weareexxonmobil" in comms session. Makes u wonder what these overpaid leeches are doing.
Lmao it is a joke when you think that our SLS are competent enough such that it will leave a tangible impact on the organisation if they leave, especially when the base engineers are leaving in hordes. How to be supervisor when there are no one to supervise?
It would be a lot more straightforward for the company to sever the services of the less experienced (say those with CL26s, in order to be ready to enact a second genesis of the SG workforce, when the time comes. This will guarantee an uninterruptible path forward, for the company to transition this temporary “glitch” without much business and operational impact.
If the attrition is reversed and top-side biased, it would be an almost impossible task to regenerate ourselves with a bunch of half-baked, low/no-experience employees, who had likely stayed on, only to eye at the SLS and DH positions vacated, that they think they would like, but have no capability at all, to fill!
GC and team are using CL26 and above attrition numbers to justify 1) Very few are leaving 2) With this layer intact, expertise and experience are here to stay 3) Pay package is competitive.
My observation is for CL26+...meaning 2nd line, dept head etc....they have nowhere to go...pay package too high for general management skillset.
To the rest....head for the exit doors if you can. The next 5 years at least wont be pretty.
@ 4Zkfj+16zEvLP3
Ifwe are lucky, they cut 2 months. Otherwise if things go according to GC’s plan, we will cut all 3 months. We are still competitive, especially at the CL26+ level got the attrition numbers to show for it, so it’s very likely this year is the last year we have 3 months AWS.
For those of you thinking of leaving, better close the deal quickly before the announcement is out and compromise your wage negotiations. Nobody is indispensable and the company is very eager to show this. GC is clearly eager to show support to Dallas. Don’t worry about her, her RSUs and the associated dividends will more than cover the AWS cuts. Think for yourself first.
I must cut Singaporean’s AWS so that Khun Woods will get his $3B cost savings.
Anybody know how much AWS they are potentially looking to cut?
Dallas has an agressive target for SG, with the believe that SG only needs 50% or 1500+ pax to run the biz here and remain profitable.
As long as this number is not met, salary freezes, promotion for only select few will continue for a few years no matter how well EM as a whole is doing.
GC/SG mgt is supportive and is trying to reach that target.
There is nothing much we can do...if you can leave...no one will be stopping you.
@4Zpra+16zEvLP3 besides improving optics I guess it improves the bottom line too. No need to shell out 3 months of pay and still be able to reach a similar conclusion. Sick.
Heard the same, there is not enough CL 26 group leaving, the bulk of the costs are in here. Business and operations can still do well, even if halved. Anyway, everyone thinks highly of themselves, and pip won't happen to them.
Things are getting from bad to worse... it is so sad to remain in the company. Someone please save me!
Yes, it is true...PIL will not be offered. This change is a recommendation to "improve the optics" of the PIP program after last year's TAFEP investigation.
All thanks to GC...lol
Next round of performance results out soon…is PIL still an option? Rumours that SG mgt wants that option removed to “prove that they don’t use PA to cull employees”? If so, it’s a really sadistic move.
It is confirmed that AWS will be reduced, talking points are being prepared for Sept/Oct communication. - usual message on how we need to be competitive etc etc.
All i can say is SG mgt did not do much to advocate for SG workforce.