Planning to tender after taking my July bonus. Tones of wok load.
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AWS retain?
It will be communicated to you only from mid July lah dud.
@58rsx+16zEvLP3 where got, i'm in 'outstanding' last year (with no distinction though). I don't receive any increment so far.
Mid-cycle adjustments only for the PA Outstanding and better categories.
Anyone heard of mid cycle adjustments for Singapore folks? Heard there are some given to selected individuals but not sure if it applies to SG
Actually, why are we making it so toxic here when we are all suffering from the consequences due to bad management and decision? Live and let live man. It is either we stand firm and be united to leave or if there is nothing good to say, don't say anything. If you are trying to build your ego by comparing how others are not doing well, then shame on you. Yes this is for those trolls and toxic people here.
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You a must be the f**king exec that has nothing much to do but just delegating down. Good luck to u … every dog has its day …
Wonder why so much negativity here, XOM is the best part-time job ever.
Have made almost 20 years of salary from options, crypto, and shares by starting at 9 and ending work at 4 every day.
And doing my own things like sleeping in between.
Anyhow good luck to those chasing pay outside, cheers to capitalism,
Remember to factor in your pay per hour before leaving.
https://youtu.be/5v1Yg6XejyE
What can I say …. So consistent from the top down the line . Say one thing , do another … our definition of integrity . So proud “ we are Em “
@57bqo+16zEvLP3, most people here helpful. Help others to avoid tricks from mgt. Nobody trust our mgt anymore. Why are you even here lurking?
Not sure why those who left still lurks in this forum, spreading fake aws news, pay freeze news. Move on and all the best with whatever path you have chosen. Gotten a better pay, work place? Good for you. Sh*tting on ppl chosing to stay is just toxic...
The five possible ranking groups are actually:
outstanding
excellent
very good
good
needs improvement
Within the top and bottom quintiles are two subgroups:
"outstanding with distinction" for the top within outstanding group
"needs significant improvement" for bottom 8% within the needs improvement group
There are five possible ranks, NSI, NI , Very good, excellent and outstanding. Newer employees will be ranked either NI , very good or excellent.
New employee ranked as outstanding in the first year? I had thought that they r by default in the spared from ranking and place in the middle of their first year.
Going for interview tomorrow, wish me good luck!
the big consultancy firms pay quite well. I just heard another colleague got a pay raise probably higher than her SLS. It is a win-win situation and definitely a winning behavior to leave.
I am a relatively new employee in chemicals, with 3 years of experience. I was ranked outstanding in my first two years and excellent this year. i have officially tendered my resignation from my position to join a consultancy firm last week. EM has given me a lot and it will be a key part of my life.
want to highlight that there are actually a lot of companies out there that pays better actually , even shopee pays relatively better. We also have employees ranging from PE, lead PE and even SLS joining the big 3 consultancy firms (MBB) and they are earning 2-3x of what I am earning in EM right now.
All the best and good luck to all
Exactly lah!
If people who had already resigned this year, all got their pro-rata bonus for 2021, why are the fu-tia-dangs in this forum even debating whether the rest of us will get full AWS by year-end?
It’s a no-brainer right? No?
These are EXACTLY the strawberries that EM needs to weed out!
No helicopter view.
No big picture thinking.
No long-range vision.
Fire them CMI strawberries all, and just go re-hire the lot lah!
Oil producers are playing with fire again, cut o/p to raise oil prices. Short term gain and long term pain. This spike in oil prices are driving more people to switch to EV sooner. Let’s see
To the younger employees, its just a question of YOUR shaping up, or shipping out!!! You decide what floats your boat.
It actually benefits the company in weeding out early, such outliers - as we go through the next phase of re-hiring sooner, more than later.
The Chemical MGVs are already doing that.
We wait for no one. Especially the Shopee aspirants!
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Absolutely!
Folks who had resigned in 1H21 all got their pro-rata 3-month AWS fulfilled.
So why should the rest of us remaining here, be held ransom to the “uncertainty” of the same in YE21?
This all points to the immaturity of many of the posters in this forum - many of whom are relatively young employees, of the strawberry generation kind.
All they are flustered about are AWS cut and salary freeze. Very shallow thinking lah. Duh!!
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Regardless of the uptick in crude price, Lubes and Olefins margins seen recently (1Q21), these could still be a day late and a dollar short for EM Corp.
Our corporate debt, in billions, still bind us to being tightly Capex-strapped, which is preventing the immediate cash-Gen realisation that the business units so desperately want/need, to penetrate new growth markets and to invert the negative cash flow!
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But these are the “living dead” whom are earning salaries to the tune of $300K pa, and higher - that have no qualms of remaining behind. Laughing their way to the bank. AWS cuts and pay freeze notwithstanding.
It's the elevated oil price now that is holding the company together from falling further, reversing some of the poor decisions it made previously. Its very likely that we will see another oil price downturn since this is a cyclic business. How the company performs then depends on how much it learns today. For that, there will be many painful decisions required to correct the ship back on its course. There will be casualties. I can only hope the sacrifices are worthwhile and that the company will learn from its mistakes. Too often those so- called strategies or action are merely demonstration by a group or individual to be seen competitive and aligning with company vision. (No thanks to competitive performance assessment). Whether those actions yield meaningful result and is sustainable (discounting the inflated metrics and self praises) often remains a question mark. When the company balance sheet is in great shape, it still can afford to make mistakes (and, toying out with many "great" ideas) but not so when it is now in debt by billions. It has been living in its own world long enough. Now, it's time to wake up or forever perish in its own dreams.
Those cl 26 and above are half boiled frogs ,half cooked and half dead , how to jump out of the slow steaming p-t ?
Broken trust between employees and company is like a ship with a broken rudder ….. directionless , going in circle.
Those who are young , still not half cooked will jump off and get a new life . For those who are half boiled or cooked and dead, does it make a difference if they perish with the sinking ship? After all they are already half dead or dead anyway. So I don’t know what we are so proud that we are staying behind 😩 . Literally , we are taking a gamble to see whether we outlast the ship or vice versa …. The living dead .
Many more employees are staying. We even got to sell Santoprene to get them out. That’s how attractive we are!
The discussion was always 2022 and beyond. 2021 no AWS cut.
Seeing most of the talented ones getting jaded and leaving...
2021 aws was already approved in last year’s salary planning cycle.. the current one is looking at 2022...
No aws cut for 2021 or 2022?
Considering the number of negative likes, it’s pretty obvious they are still lurking here and earning miserable pay in their new company
Just confirmed no AWS cut for 2022 but don't expect significant pay rise. Its been a journey worth waiting for. Let's work together to get the company back on track. We need each other in this tough times.
Yup I'm a strawberry. Stupid me upskilling with online courses and accepting an offer with higher pay and more growth opportunities.
You mean eat snake …………….. errrr I mean python, at Shopee issit?
@54gwz+16zEvLP3
You can re-skill yourself what.
Take up coding, learn Python.
AI, Machine Learning, Data Analytics.
Or join our favourite sonofagun company - Shopee, to do front-end website administration.
Everyday can sing and dance with Mark Lee and Phua Chu Kang leh! Hehe
Blardy h e l l !!! ….. so strawberry meh?
Cut AWS only want to resign oredi ah?
The strawberry gen all don’t know what hardship is.
Staying because stuck lar. Where to go? Nothing to be so proud of.
People that were laid off are spreading the rumours too… Imagine being this insecure and sour…
No lah. Everyone is staying. Only a few departures on the youngsters side who can’t take the hardship. Majority of the Lao Jiao still staying behind!